BuddhistCatholicContemplativeEvangelicalGeneral ChristianHinduJewishLatter-day SaintMuslimNew VisionsProgressive Christian
Beliefs
- Buddhist
- Catholic
- Contemplative
- Evangelical
- General Christian
- Hindu
- Jewish
- Latter-day Saint
- More Voices
- Muslim
- New Visions
- Pagan
- Progressive Christian
Topics
- Religion News
- Food and Religion
- Sports and Religion
- Religious Art
- Religious Music and Entertainment
- Religious Events
- History and Religion
- Style and Religion
- Politics and Religion
- Women in Religion
- Recreation Outdoors and Religion
- Business Finance and Religion
- Careers Workplace and Religion
- Education and Religion
- Family Parenting and Religion
- Health Fitness and Religion
- Home and Religion
- Relationships and Religion
- Technology and Religion
- Travel and Religion
Columnists
- Buddhist Columnists
- Business Finance and Religion Columnists
- Careers Workplace and Religion Columnists
- Catholic Columnists
- Contemplative Columnists
- Education and Religion Columnists
- Evangelists Columnists
- Family Parenting and Religion Columnists
- General Christian Columnists
- Health Fitness and Religion Columnists
- Hindu Columnists
- History and Religion Columnists
- Home and Religion Columnists
- Jewish Columnists
- More Voices Columnists
- Latter Day Columnists
- Muslim Columnists
- New Visions Columnists
- Nonreligious Columnists
- Pagan Columnists
- Politics and Religion Columnists
- Progressive Columnists
- Recreation Outdoors and Religion Columnists
- Relationships and Religion Columnists
- Religion News Columnists
- Religious Art Columnists
- Religious Events Columnists
- Religious Music and Entertainment Columnists
- Sports and Religion Columnists
- Style and Religion Columnists
- Technology and Religion Columnists
- Travel and Religion Columnists
- Women in Religion Columnists
Resource Library
- 2026 Calendar
- Library of World Religions
- The 100 Most Holy Places on Earth
- Patheos Answers
- Podcasts
- Videos
- Faith Leaders Database
- Anglican Episcopalian
- Bahai
- Baptist
- Buddhism
- Christianity
- Confucianism
- Eastern Orthodoxy
- Hinduism
- Holiness and Pentecostal
- ISKCON
- Islam
- Judaism
- Lutheran
- Methodist
- The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
- New Age
- Paganism
- Presbytarian and Reformed
- Protestantism
- Religion Behind the Scenes
- Roman Catholic
- Scientology
- Shia Islam
- Sikhism
- Sufism
- Sunni Islam
- Taoism
- Zen
- See all religions
Research Tools
Ad-Free & Subscriber Log-In Subscription Support
Ad-Free & Subscriber Log-In Subscription Support
- Trending:
- Forgiveness
- |
- Marriage
- |
- Consciousness
- |
- Death Penalty
- |
- Election
- |
- Halloween
Wild Fox Zen
- Home
- Buddhist
- Menzan and Modern Zen
Menzan and Modern Zen
Last updated on: July 4, 2010 at 11:35 am by Dosho Port
Menzan and Modern Zen 2010-07-04T11:35:00-06:00 Dosho Port
Patheos Explore the world's faith through different perspectives on religion and spirituality! Patheos has the views of the prevalent religions and spiritualities of the world.
I’m enjoying our biggest stretch of vacation time at home before camping and conferencing and sesshining later in the month. And then up to the Boundary Waters for canoeing in August.
This down time has given me the chance to enjoy my hobby of reading scholarly Zen stuff, savoring David Riggs’ piece, “The Zen of Books and Practice: The Life of Menzan Zuiho and His Reformation of Soto Zen,” in the new anthology by Heine and Wright, Zen Masters.
The Menzan presented by Riggs breaks out of the ideas that I had about Menzan. No da, eh?
Contrary to what I’d picked up about him somewhere, Menzan wasn’t “opposed” to Rinzai but to the use of the “head word” koan method specifically when students were “encouraged” through excessive means like beatings. “This is nothing but corporal punishment,” says Menzan. Amen.
Also, Menzan stayed and taught at many Rinzai temples through his later life and wrote commentaries on The Book of Serenity and The Blue Cliff Record.
The current rivalry between Soto and Rinzai often seems to be projected backward on the traditions even though it simply doesn’t fit the history. And because the Japanese Soto and Rinzai have grown apart in the last couple hundred years (sometimes using each other as foils to rally the faithful), that’s no reason for us to carry on old family feuds.
Had Menzan’s views won out, the brutal Eiheiji documented in Eat, Sleep, Sit: My Year at Japan’s Most Rigorous Zen Temple, would have been a kinder and gentler place with foot-long bamboo sticks with padding on the ends for gently poking sleeping monks, rather than yard-long wooden kyosaku used to deliver intensive blows to the shoulders.
Further, I found that Menzan and Katagiri may have agreed about mysticism. In one of Roshi’s last talks, he encouraged us to offer deep reflection about human life to the modern world rather than arcane rituals. Specifically, about the precepts, “Menzan took the position that as important as it was to receive the precepts, the taking was a confirmation of practice, not its completion” (p. 169).
That may seem obvious to you but in contemporary Soto the taking of the precepts is often presented as akin to an esoteric ritual without ethical implications for practice.
Likewise, probably the most significant aspect of Riggs’ piece for me has been in the reflections that it has stimulated about our contemporary Soto scene.
Menzan, you see, was one of the early teachers who advocated looking back to Dogen and re-creating the actual practice of Soto Zen through careful study of the Dogen’s writings. Sonno, Menzan’s main teacher, told him to “…look upon the face of Dogen, and not the face of others.”
This spirit is that I was steeped in when studying with Katagiri Roshi and so have since, for example, encouraged the Soto Zen Buddhist Association to recognize Dogen’s works as source texts (without success).
I still think there are great benefits in Dogen study but this article has made me more keenly aware of one of the faults of that approach. If we look back at Dogen too much, our own creativity is stymied which is a odd thing given how Dogen, almost word-by-word, models the creative capacity of the awakened mind.
Another implication from looking back too much is that we don’t see the more current guides of living the dharma. For example, I hear that the Tibetans value more recent commentaries more than the ancient ones because they are more current applications of dharma principles.
In the same vein, after one of the talks that I gave about Keep Me In Your Heart While, someone asked if the book had gone through peer review. “Dang,” I thought, “that’s a good idea!”
When we hold that which is far away as more dear, we also tend to overlook the dharma that is close at hand. If we implemented a system of peer review, we’d need to take each other’s work much more seriously and I bet we’d improve the quality of what was put out there.
To close, here’s Riggs’s introductory paragraph that summarizes his essay:
Menzan Zuiho (1683-1769) was one of the most illustrious writers and reformers of the Tokugawa period. During this era, there were major changes in Zen practice as well as a wide-ranging reevaluation of Buddhist doctrine. Menzan was probably the most creative and prolific of all the Soto Zen writers of the time. His approach to learning and his emphasis on historical sources continue to this day to be characteristic of the Soto school, and his writings about doctrine and details of monastic practice are the foundation of the contemporary school. At the same time, Menzan was a popular teacher of Buddhism to lay men and women, and a revered Zen master who led strict training sessions for many years. He succeeded in training so many disciples that he gave dharma transmission to twenty-seven of them, many times the norm and more than all except one other Soto teacher. Menzan took a strikingly moderate attitude toward practice by, for example, adapting a more humane and mainstream outlook toward precepts. He was very critical of an excess of zeal, whether through use of the stick in the meditation hall or through excessive effort leading to the risk of mental illness. Many of these more moderate positions were not ultimately accepted in the Soto mainstream, so in spite of influence on the later school, some of his positions were rejected.
Previous Post

July 1, 2010
Courage and Compassion: Review of "The Banyan Deer"
Next Post

July 7, 2010 Dying With Heat and Cold
Browse Our Archives
Select a Category Uncategorized
Select a Month August 2023 July 2023 June 2023 May 2023 April 2023 March 2023 February 2023 January 2023 December 2022 November 2022 October 2022 September 2022 August 2022 July 2022 June 2022 May 2022 April 2022 March 2022 February 2022 January 2022 December 2021 November 2021 August 2021 June 2021 April 2021 February 2021 January 2021 November 2020 September 2020 August 2020 July 2020 June 2020 May 2020 April 2020 January 2020 December 2019 November 2019 August 2019 June 2019 May 2019 April 2019 February 2019 January 2019 December 2018 November 2018 October 2018 September 2018 August 2018 July 2018 June 2018 May 2018 April 2018 March 2018 February 2018 January 2018 December 2017 November 2017 October 2017 September 2017 August 2017 July 2017 June 2017 December 2016 October 2016 June 2016 April 2016 February 2016 January 2016 December 2015 November 2015 October 2015 August 2015 June 2015 May 2015 April 2015 March 2015 February 2015 January 2015 December 2014 November 2014 October 2014 September 2014 August 2014 July 2014 June 2014 May 2014 April 2014 March 2014 February 2014 January 2014 December 2013 November 2013 October 2013 September 2013 August 2013 July 2013 June 2013 May 2013 April 2013 March 2013 February 2013 January 2013 December 2012 November 2012 October 2012 September 2012 August 2012 July 2012 June 2012 May 2012 April 2012 March 2012 February 2012 January 2012 December 2011 November 2011 October 2011 September 2011 August 2011 July 2011 June 2011 May 2011 April 2011 March 2011 February 2011 January 2011 December 2010 November 2010 October 2010 September 2010 August 2010 July 2010 June 2010 May 2010 April 2010 March 2010 February 2010 January 2010 December 2009 November 2009 October 2009 September 2009 August 2009 July 2009 June 2009 May 2009 April 2009 March 2009 February 2009 January 2009 December 2008 November 2008 October 2008 September 2008 August 2008 July 2008 June 2008 May 2008
Follow Us!
TAKE THE
Religious Wisdom Quiz
According to 3 John, who loves to be first and will not welcome the brothers?
Select your answer to see how you score.
Demetrius Diotrephes Gaius Alexander
Related posts from Wild Fox Zen
Throw Yourself Into the House of Buddha: The...
New Vine Ghost Site for Dosho's Creative Endeavors...
Gnawing Through Qiánfēng’s Three Illnesses and Two Lights
"Why, Oh Why, Is My Practice Not Progressing?"
TRENDING AT PATHEOS Buddhist
On Taking Refuge in the Dharma
(Here I continue the feature of sharing talks and essays by teachers...
(Continuing my intention to share talks and essays by other members of Empty...
The Subtle Art of Bowing: A Dharma Discourse
(This presentation was first offered by my dear friend Dharma Holder Tom...
Internal Family Systems Can Heal you Mentally &...
How IFS Helped Me Stop Fighting Myself Internal Family Systems (IFS) is...
The Bible No One Spoke About: A Family’s...
A mysterious family Bible, unspoken faith, and a journey from curiosity to...
How Uncertainty Can Transform Your Life in 2025
Embracing Uncertainty: A New Year’s Resolution for the Brave As 2025 approaches,...
view all Buddhist blogs
Ad-Free & Subscriber Log-In Subscription Support
- About Us
- 2026 Calendar
- Videos
- Podcasts
- Library of World Religions
- Faith In Media Tracker
- Advertise With Us
- Write for Us
- Privacy Policy
- Terms of Service
- Do Not Sell My Data
- Contact Us
- Radiant Digital
- Manage Newsletter Subscriptions
- Unsubscribe From Notifications
- Sitemap
Copyright 2008-2026, Patheos. All rights reserved.
Subscription Support Ad-Free & Subscriber Log-In










