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Atheists Trolled Me for 5 Days, So I Learned Their Strategies
Last updated on: December 7, 2018 at 9:15 am by Fr. Matthew P. Schneider, LC
Atheists Trolled Me for 5 Days, So I Learned Their Strategies 2018-12-07T09:15:31-05:00 Fr. Matthew P. Schneider, LC
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Two weeks ago, I posted a version of the popular meme-like format of “Don’t say it.” It pointed out the logical inconsistencies of atheists online.
[Sees Atheists memes online]
My brain:
Don’t say it
Don’t say it
Don’t say it
Don’t say it
Don’t say it
Don’t say it
Don’t say itMe: It takes more faith to be an atheist than a Christian, & I don’t have that much faith.
— Fr. Matthew P. Schneider, LC�️ (@FrMatthewLC) November 16, 2018
Trolling, Trolling, Trolling
This lead to days of atheists trolling me with 100s of tweets in reply. I want to share a bit with you so you can respond when atheists come after you online. I know a few who have faltered when faced with an online atheist onslaught and my purpose is to help strengthen you in case you experience something like this.
One reply lead to a whole other thread. Atheists tend to like a certain exceptionalism for themselves where others can’t push their beliefs but they can.
I don’t understand why atheists just can’t refrain from always trying to force their beliefs on everyone else. https://t.co/dIEEcmoarR
— Fr. Matthew P. Schneider, LC�️ (@FrMatthewLC) November 18, 2018
The quoted tweet (as I couldn’t figure out how to embed above including it).
So let me explain what these meant, and the problems atheist trolls demonstrate regarding their own atheism.
Why Atheists Have More Faith
Faith is a belief in anything beyond what we directly experience. In the simplest form, I believe Madagascar is a real place despite almost no chance I’ll go there in my life. When we Christians talk about our faith, we often mean a theological virtue that gives us a certainty beyond what we experience. However, what we believe is beyond reason but not against reason. What atheists believe is against reason, plain and simple. Hence, why I called their belief as having more faith.
Deducing God
There are many arguments to prove the existence of God through philosophy. But I won’t post each one here (just follow the links).
Problems with Atheist Arguments
Throughout the five days of being trolled and seeing 100s of atheist messages, they seem to fall into a limited number of repeated errors. Many of these errors are forms of confirmation bias or assuming what they are trying to prove. I fit these in two categories.
Fundamental Errors of Philosophy
- The error of assuming only scientific knowledge matters (this statement is philosophical, and thus beyond the realm of science).
- The error of assuming that everything is material (this is a trickery of including their conclusion in their premise). We don’t need to begin by assuming that non-spiritual realities exist, as this can be proven so long as you don’t automatically discount that evidence like atheists wrongly assume.
- A similar error is assuming all causal chains are linear. If a ball hits another or two mice make babies we have linear reactions but some causation requires a power on a level above it. For example, although I and a kitten can press keyboard letters, it requires intelligence to write coherently.
Errors in the Relationship Between Philosophy and Theology
- The error of assuming proving God means proving the Trinity. This is the underlying issue if you hear atheists claim that we only believe because of faith. Unfortunately, English doesn’t have two separate words for God-insofar-as-we-can-know-him-without-faith and the fullness-of-the-Christian-understanding-of-God. Although these refer to the same being, they refer to him in different ways.
- The error of assuming that God is just like bigfoot or the thousands of pagan gods. A person need not necessarily confront if bigfoot exists in their life, however, we do need to confront if there is a first cause. Without a first cause, everything is meaningless. Hence, the importance of the distinction above.
Lessons
I learned two things from this experience. First, that atheist troll Twitter is one of the less pleasant Twitter groups. Second, which is more applicable for the rest of you, that atheists often make false arguments or assume what they are trying to prove. So, hopefully, my experience and explanation above might help you better deal with atheists. Sometimes you can explain God’s existence, but other times when dealing with atheists, we realize there is some error the atheist holds that goes beyond logic so we just need to pray for him or her.
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