BuddhistCatholicContemplativeEvangelicalGeneral ChristianHinduJewishLatter-day SaintMuslimNew VisionsProgressive Christian
Beliefs
- Buddhist
- Catholic
- Contemplative
- Evangelical
- General Christian
- Hindu
- Jewish
- Latter-day Saint
- More Voices
- Muslim
- New Visions
- Pagan
- Progressive Christian
Topics
- Religion News
- Food and Religion
- Sports and Religion
- Religious Art
- Religious Music and Entertainment
- Religious Events
- History and Religion
- Style and Religion
- Politics and Religion
- Women in Religion
- Recreation Outdoors and Religion
- Business Finance and Religion
- Careers Workplace and Religion
- Education and Religion
- Family Parenting and Religion
- Health Fitness and Religion
- Home and Religion
- Relationships and Religion
- Technology and Religion
- Travel and Religion
Columnists
- Buddhist Columnists
- Business Finance and Religion Columnists
- Careers Workplace and Religion Columnists
- Catholic Columnists
- Contemplative Columnists
- Education and Religion Columnists
- Evangelists Columnists
- Family Parenting and Religion Columnists
- General Christian Columnists
- Health Fitness and Religion Columnists
- Hindu Columnists
- History and Religion Columnists
- Home and Religion Columnists
- Jewish Columnists
- More Voices Columnists
- Latter Day Columnists
- Muslim Columnists
- New Visions Columnists
- Nonreligious Columnists
- Pagan Columnists
- Politics and Religion Columnists
- Progressive Columnists
- Recreation Outdoors and Religion Columnists
- Relationships and Religion Columnists
- Religion News Columnists
- Religious Art Columnists
- Religious Events Columnists
- Religious Music and Entertainment Columnists
- Sports and Religion Columnists
- Style and Religion Columnists
- Technology and Religion Columnists
- Travel and Religion Columnists
- Women in Religion Columnists
Resource Library
- 2026 Calendar
- Library of World Religions
- The 100 Most Holy Places on Earth
- Patheos Answers
- Podcasts
- Videos
- Faith Leaders Database
- Anglican Episcopalian
- Bahai
- Baptist
- Buddhism
- Christianity
- Confucianism
- Eastern Orthodoxy
- Hinduism
- Holiness and Pentecostal
- ISKCON
- Islam
- Judaism
- Lutheran
- Methodist
- The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
- New Age
- Paganism
- Presbytarian and Reformed
- Protestantism
- Religion Behind the Scenes
- Roman Catholic
- Scientology
- Shia Islam
- Sikhism
- Sufism
- Sunni Islam
- Taoism
- Zen
- See all religions
Research Tools
Ad-Free & Subscriber Log-In Subscription Support
Ad-Free & Subscriber Log-In Subscription Support
- Trending:
- Forgiveness
- |
- Marriage
- |
- Consciousness
- |
- Death Penalty
- |
- Election
- |
- Halloween
- Home
- Pagan
- Distracting Thoughts In Meditation
Distracting Thoughts In Meditation
Last updated on: March 8, 2016 at 6:38 pm by Tom Swiss
Distracting Thoughts In Meditation 2016-03-08T18:38:45-04:00 Tom Swiss
Patheos Explore the world's faith through different perspectives on religion and spirituality! Patheos has the views of the prevalent religions and spiritualities of the world.
This is a cross-post from my karate blog, Sky Hand Road.
Zen teacher Brad Warner recently tweeted, “Thinking your meditation is going wrong because you have distracting thoughts is like thinking your workout is going wrong because you sweat”. As someone whose meditation often takes the form of sweaty martial arts workouts, I found this an interesting metaphor.
(And yes, grammar nerds, though it uses the word “like” it is a metaphor, for simile is a type of metaphor.)
When we exercise our bodies, sweat is the normal result. It’s an indicator that we’re putting in effort. If we’re not even working up a sweat, we’re not working hard. (Unless it’s cold out or something.) And it’s worth noting that a workout that might have left us sweaty last year might be effortless now, so we have to step up our efforts over time as we become more fit. Maybe a more athletic person could do my workout without getting sweaty, but that just means they should be working harder.
So this metaphor seems to suggest that if we don’t find distracting thoughts when we sit, we’re not trying hard enough. How could this be? Isn’t the whole goal to eliminate distracting thoughts?
In our culture meditation is seen as something one undertakes in order to achieve a certain goal. We are very goal-oriented; we exercise in order to lose weight or to bring our cholesterol number down or relieve stress. We study martial arts to be able to defend ourselves or to get in better shape. We buy a house in a certain neighborhood because it’s a good investment, we date someone with the goal of starting a family, and so on. Now there’s nothing wrong with setting a goal and planning how to get there. But often that has us so focused on that distant goal that we don’t see where we are.
And so it is with meditation. We start to meditate in quest of some goal, to have a quieter mind or inner peace or some such idea. In recent years it’s become common for business people to learn meditation in order to be better focused on their jobs and better able to raise corporate profits. (This is not a new American sin, by the way; Japanese companies have sent employees off for Zen training for a while.)
Then we sit, and all this stuff comes up. We find all of these distracting inner voices. We don’t seem to be getting closer to that goal of a quieter, clearer mind. In fact it seem to be getting farther away! We must be Doing It Wrong!
And that’s ironic, because meditation should teach us to be in the here-and-now. Instead we’re so focused on some there-and-then goal that we think something must be wrong when the truth of our mind in the present moment intrudes.
It’s a funny thing about those inner voices. Many voices together make an incomprehensible noise. It’s only when things become relatively more quiet, when only one at a time is talking, that we can clearly make out what’s being said.
The untrained mind (and let’s be honest, even the trained mind at times!) is a susurrus of voices, commenting and offering advice, all speaking at once and thus incomprehensible. If you can clearly make out one voice, it means the noise is less! So when you’re sitting and you find you’re thinking about the frozen pizza you’re going to have for dinner later…as counter-intuitive as it may be, if that’s a single clear thought in your brain, that can actually be a sign of progress.
Of course obsession, where only one voice ever speaks clearly, is a pathology. So if it’s only “Pizza…pizza…pizza…” all the time, that’s not so healthy. But if it is, one voice at a time, “Pizza…that computer bug at work…that pretty girl you hope will text you back…need to write something for the blog…gee, sitting like this is uncomfortable…hey, new episode of The Walking Dead tonight….”, if instead of incomprehensible noise only one voice at a time is speaking, then there is the possibility of silence in between. The cloud cover has become broken enough for clouds to have a distinct shape. And that means the moon — always there, whether you see it or not — can now poke through from time to time.
You can keep up with “The Zen Pagan” by subscribing via RSS or e-mail.
Two new blogs here at Patheos that you should check out! On the Buddhist Channel, Daniel Scharpenburg’s “Bodhisattva Road” , and next door here at Patheos Pagan Megan Manson’s “Pagan Tama”.
If you do Facebook, you might choose to join a group on “Zen Paganism” I’ve set up there. And don’t forget to “like” Patheos Pagan and/or The Zen Pagan over there,
too.
Previous Post

March 3, 2016
Election 2016: There Are More Than Two Colors
Next Post

March 15, 2016 Concussions, Geometry, And Incompatible World-Views
Browse Our Archives
Select a Category 2017 52 Makeup 2020 52 Makeup Always Roaming With A Hungry Heart Art Because I Could Not Stop For Death Caught On Video COVID-19 Culture Discordianism Ethics, Virtue, and Right Living History Magic(k), Ritual, and Mysticism My Blogging Life and Times Philosophy Podcast Poetry Random Wednesdays Religion & Politics Seasonal Musings Techno-Pagan Theology Uncategorized Warrior Path Zen
Select a Month October 2026 September 2026 August 2026 March 2026 February 2026 January 2026 December 2025 March 2025 January 2025 December 2024 November 2024 September 2024 August 2024 June 2024 May 2024 April 2024 March 2024 February 2024 December 2023 September 2023 August 2023 July 2023 June 2023 May 2023 March 2023 February 2023 January 2023 December 2022 October 2022 September 2022 June 2022 April 2022 February 2022 January 2022 December 2021 November 2021 October 2021 September 2021 August 2021 July 2021 May 2021 April 2021 March 2021 February 2021 January 2021 December 2020 November 2020 October 2020 September 2020 August 2020 June 2020 May 2020 April 2020 March 2020 February 2020 January 2020 December 2019 November 2019 October 2019 September 2019 August 2019 July 2019 June 2019 May 2019 April 2019 March 2019 February 2019 January 2019 December 2018 November 2018 October 2018 September 2018 August 2018 July 2018 June 2018 May 2018 April 2018 March 2018 January 2018 December 2017 November 2017 October 2017 September 2017 August 2017 July 2017 June 2017 May 2017 April 2017 March 2017 February 2017 January 2017 December 2016 November 2016 October 2016 September 2016 August 2016 July 2016 June 2016 May 2016 April 2016 March 2016 February 2016 January 2016 December 2015 November 2015 October 2015 September 2015 August 2015 July 2015 June 2015
Follow Us!
TAKE THE
Religious Wisdom Quiz
Which Old Testament book is composed mostly of love poems?
Select your answer to see how you score.
Ecclesiastes Proverbs Song of Solomon Ruth
Related posts from The Zen Pagan
Death, Dogs, and Cherry Blossoms
The Serenity of Shikata Ga Nai
Yoda, Hui Neng, and the Sacred Texts
TRENDING AT PATHEOS Pagan
The Woman We Remember by Her Wound
Śūrpaṇakhā Had a Heart Desire, humiliation, and the woman behind a turning...
6 Ways to Promote a Healthy Relationship
Karen, 42, and Kevin, 41, have been married for ten years and...
Jad Gillies on New Hillsong Worship Songs and...
For worship leader Jad Gillies, Hillsong Worship’s next chapter is not about...
Looking at the Largest Orthodox Cathedral on Earth
There is often a considerable amount of anger and, shall we...
The Problem with False Prophets
Miller’s Station UMC| 10/18/26| Anchor Verse: Jeremiah 23: 1, 9-23 I...
Emotion in Early Christianity by Andrew Crislip
Andrew Crislip’s Emotion in Early Christianity examines an often overlooked dimension of...
view all Pagan blogs
Ad-Free & Subscriber Log-In Subscription Support
- About Us
- 2026 Calendar
- Videos
- Podcasts
- Library of World Religions
- Faith In Media Tracker
- Advertise With Us
- Write for Us
- Privacy Policy
- Terms of Service
- Do Not Sell My Data
- Contact Us
- Radiant Digital
- Manage Newsletter Subscriptions
- Unsubscribe From Notifications
- Sitemap
Copyright 2008-2026, Patheos. All rights reserved.
Subscription Support Ad-Free & Subscriber Log-In











