Gun Control or Domestic Violence?

Last updated on: January 27, 2014 at 2:00 pm by Aliza Worthington

Gun Control or Domestic Violence? 2014-01-27T14:00:48-05:00 Aliza Worthington

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After the Jovan Belcher murder/suicide, I had the following discussion on Facebook with my friend, fellow Murrow-ite, New Yorker, and blogger, Chris Cataudella. Please read and discuss.

Aliza Worthington

So, all the articles you posted on gun control not being the issue in the Belcher crimes reminds me of a really smart thing some really smart lady once wrote…

“…people who use abortion as a cheap and easy fix for their irresponsible behavior (if such people exist) are presenting symptoms of much deeper societal ills than the fact that safe and legal abortions are available to them. Just like people who use guns in an irresponsible, devastating way are reflective of a much deeper ill than the fact that guns are legal.”
8:53pm

Chris Cataudella

I’ll go along with that.
9:53pm

Chris Cataudella

If we look at this whole thing from a sociological standpoint, it breaks down like this:

We (as a people) don’t wish to look at the deep seeded reasons behind the rise of violence in this country. We blame anything we can NOT to look at the bigger picture. Such as in this case, we have a clear cut issue of domestic violence. The fact that the weapon used was a gun is the focal point being made by certain parties to further their own agenda. However, through the fog of the media blitz, we need to focus on the fact that whatever the object used to murder this woman, the real issue is the domestic abuse. This topic seems to still be a sore spot, and yes, I would think that women should be concerned with that more than ever.

If the media and “powers that be” choose to focus solely on the weapon used to commit the crime, then where is the understanding and ability to solve the actual crime?
9:58pm

Aliza Worthington

Correct.
9:58pm

Chris Cataudella

Whether this guy chose his fists, a car, a baseball bat, what does it matter?

Where is the defense of women as a whole?

For instance, Let’s say this is Great Britian <sic> and there are NO legal handguns….the guy pulls a cricket bat out and pummels the wife then leaps out the window to his death.

What do you do? Say “If there was no cricket bat – the two of them would still be alive today!” Because, really – that’s what you’re saying…

And if I were a woman I would be fucking pissed that the media is poo-poo-ing this whole thing and focusing on the gun. And that’s my expanded rant on that.

one ultra right winger once wrote this –

I could kill ten people driving my SUV to the ballpark, but no one is trying to ban baseball bats or cars.
10:04pm

Aliza Worthington

Correct.
10:05pm

Chris Cataudella

WELL OK THEN!

phew.
10:05pm

Aliza Worthington

Feel better?
10:06pm

Chris Cataudella

I feel like shit. because that was a great Aliza/Chris combined blog post. Copy & paste, and blog it.
10:07pm

Aliza Worthington

Well, it was mostly Chris.
10:08pm

Chris Cataudella

make believe. say something like – I asked my republican friend who just happens to be a gun owner what he thought…
10:14pm

Aliza Worthington

Why don’t you write it? All I did was quote myself in the beginning and agree with you from that point on…
10:15pm

Chris Cataudella

because it needs to be written by a woman. I’m just another guy with a gun to alot of the anti-gunners.
10:17pm

Aliza Worthington

That’s funny, I think it needs to be written by a man. More powerful when a man comes out against violence against women. Urge congress to pass VAWA, and really take it somewhere.
10:18pm

Chris Cataudella

right – but if I write it – I look like I’m cow-towing to the media pressure as an excuse to keep my guns…If you wrote it as a question & answer thing, it would look more honest, i think..
10:27pm

Aliza Worthington

I’m gonna write about how we’re fighting about who should write it.
10:28pm

Chris Cataudella

actually, that would work out even better…
10:46pm

Aliza Worthington

Hmmmmm. Formulating.
10:55pm

Chris Cataudella

Something else I just realized…if this is the same so-called “liberal” media bias” concerning gun control, and it truly is part of the liberal agenda, where is that same liberal agenda concerning women’s rights?

Isn’t that what the Dems won the election on?

“The War on Women”. Wouldn’t this be case in point?

Just my $.02.
11:02pm

Aliza Worthington

Plenty of people are pushing back, saying guns weren’t the issue. Except for Costas and the other guy, I haven’t seen much upheaval about gun control come from this.

Though, admittedly, I haven’t been watching much news.
11:07pm

Chris Cataudella

No, its been out there. The Brady Campaign…the Violence Policy Center…the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence…they’re all over it. Unfortunately, they get a macabre kick out if these events..

And don’t forget, Costa and the other guy are part of the NBC network…they do so much anti-gun programming as well as the ultra-left MSNBC…they’re so diametrically opposite to fox news, its like night and day…

Not that I care much for fox news either…
11:10pm

Aliza Worthington

Is fox news framing it as a domestic violence issue?

FWIW, I think Costa was out of line.
11:12pm

Chris Cataudella

He was out of line. He gets paid for sports analysis. And paid well, I might add.

Yes fox is framing it that way.

Unfortunately, they’re really not taken seriously by the middle anymore…
11:13pm

Aliza Worthington

Nope.
11:13pm

Chris Cataudella

But that’s well deserved, in my opinion.
11:14pm

Aliza Worthington

I agree. Fox hasn’t been a bastion of women’s rights support.

One of their commentators said of the situation that women should make better choices –
11:18pm

Chris Cataudella

Heh. No. They haven’t exactly endeared themselves.
11:18pm

Aliza Worthington

Implicitly blaming victims of domestic violence.
11:19pm

Chris Cataudella

I agree. And it destroys any credibility on the things they may actually be right on.
11:19pm

Aliza Worthington

Yep.
11:20pm

Chris Cataudella

Sucks being in the middle.
11:21pm

Aliza Worthington

Heh
11:21pm

Chris Cataudella

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