Patheos

BuddhistCatholicContemplativeEvangelicalGeneral ChristianHinduJewishLatter-day SaintMuslimNew VisionsProgressive Christian

Beliefs

Topics

Columnists

Resource Library

Research Tools

Video

Podcasts

Thought Readers

Faith In Media Tracker

Newsletters

Ad-Free & Subscriber Log-In Subscription Support

Patheos

Ad-Free & Subscriber Log-In Subscription Support

Follow Patheos Patheos on Facebook Patheos on YouTube

The God Article with Mark Sandlin

Stay Informed My Friends – A Cautionary Tale

Last updated on: October 16, 2014 at 11:48 am   by Mark Sandlin

Stay Informed My Friends – A Cautionary Tale 2014-10-16T11:48:43-05:00 Mark Sandlin

LOGO Patheos Explore the world's faith through different perspectives on religion and spirituality! Patheos has the views of the prevalent religions and spiritualities of the world.

stay informed my friendsRecently, a friend and I were at a local book and coffee shop talking about our faith. We both tend toward what I think of as having an “evolving faith.” That is, one which is both willing to question the traditions of the Church and also to incorporate other perspectives.

We talked about the value of various faiths, the importance of new information and a variety of other topics that aren’t welcomed in as many churches as they should be.

They are the kind of things that are ultimately seen as a threat to “faith” because in the traditional point of view, “faith” requires a leap of “trust.”

Said differently, in a large proportion of Christianity, “faith” requires a leap of logic or, at the very least, the ignoring of it.

During our conversation I noticed a guy who stayed fairly close by for quite some time as he perused the books. Eventually, he came over and politely apologized for overhearing the conversation (in the small room, he really had no choice but to hear it) and asked if we’d mind if he joined us.

Of course, we said, “yes” and at that point the conversation really took a turn.

My friend and I were no longer opening new horizons for our personal faiths, we were defending them.

At first I really wasn’t sure what we were defending them from.

He wasn’t being very straight forward. It was nearly impossible to tell if our new conversation partner was trying to gently steer us toward fundamentalist Christianity or the Islamic equivalent. But, ultimately, it was toward Christianity.

He spoke of how the Jesus in the Q’uran and Jesus in the Bible were very different characters and, therefore, weren’t actually the same person.

Honestly, it was wonderful to be able to respond in a knowledgeable way. Having read the Q’uran, I was able to respond in an informed manner. So, II also pointed out ideas like how the Jesus in Matthew and the Jesus in John could easily be seen as different Jesus’ using his logic.

It’s good to be well informed.

And that’s the point of this post.

There was a point in the conversation at which I realized how astoundingly uninformed I was about certain things. Important things. I mean, I had at some point reviewed the informations needed. I was personally convinced by it and had built my belief system upon it as a reality.

But when what I knew was challenged with differing “facts,” I wasn’t able to do much more than say, “Well, that’s not what I learned.”

Friends, “that’s not what I learned,” is not a valid point in a discussion unless the point of the discussion is to define how we have learned different things.

It’s important to be well informed.

The issue at hand was evolution. (How ironic is it that my friend and I were having a discussion about evolving faith and I come up short on the question of evolution?)

Our new conversation partner was denying that there had been any clear evidence over the long term for evolution.

Now, I knew that there was evidence. I had studied it. I had considered it. I had come to my conclusions about it. I had incorporated it into my perspective.

I had forgotten it.

So my response was, “Well, that’s not what I learned.”

Ugh.

It’s a lesson in the importance of staying informed. It is simply not good enough to know that you know. We need to continually make sure we know why we know.

With that in mind, I’d like to share with you a little refresher course in evolution.

Stay informed my friends.

 
 
 

Consider supporting Mark’s blogging. Help create a market for Progressive Christianity. Not through big publishers or big denominations, but through the grassroots. We need to encourage the growth of progressive Christian voices in the marketplace. Even a dollar will help.
 
 

Facebook continues to make it increasingly difficult for me to let you know about new blog posts like this. Please consider signing up for my mailing list where we can insure you are notified.  Just click here!

Mark is a co-founder of The Christian Left. Come and join the conversation!

Intellectualism

Jesus

evolution

Progressive Christianity

Religious Conversion

stay informed

Previous Post



October 10, 2014

Now That All Can Wed In North Carolina...

Next Post



October 13, 2014 Why YOUR Vote Matters This November


Browse Our Archives

Select a Category abortion Advent Afterlife agnostic America atheist Bible bourbon Brad Pitt Brokeness Christianity Christmas Church Civil Rights Confessions Congress Conservative Christianity Crucifixion Easter election Elections Equality Facebook Feminism Ferguson Fiction Following Jesus Foodie Gamers God GOP Gospels Gun Control Health Care Hell Heretic Heritic Holy Week Humanism immigration Inclusiveness Innovation Institutionalized Church Intellectualism Islam Jesus Job Justice Lectionary LGBT Life Love Matthew 11 Minister MLK Mother's Day Movie Review Movies Music Nones Obama peace Political Pope Francis Poverty Prayer Prison Progressive Christianity Prophetic Question Mark refugee Resistance sex shooting Sin Spirit Thanksgiving The 10% The Christian Left The Walking Dead Theology Trinity Trump Uncategorized unChristian Unemployment United States violence voting war Women's rights workers rights

Select a Month January 2017 July 2016 May 2016 April 2016 March 2016 February 2016 January 2016 December 2015 November 2015 October 2015 September 2015 August 2015 July 2015 June 2015 May 2015 April 2015 March 2015 February 2015 January 2015 December 2014 November 2014 October 2014 September 2014 August 2014 July 2014 June 2014 May 2014 March 2014 February 2014 January 2014 December 2013 November 2013 October 2013 September 2013 August 2013 July 2013 June 2013 February 2013 January 2013 December 2012 November 2012 October 2012 September 2012 August 2012 July 2012 June 2012 May 2012 March 2012 February 2012 January 2012 December 2011 October 2011 August 2011 July 2011 June 2011 May 2011 April 2011 March 2011 February 2011 January 2011 December 2010 November 2010 October 2010


Follow Us!

Follow Us on Facebook Follow Us on Twitter



TAKE THE

Religious Wisdom Quiz

What happened to Jonah?

Select your answer to see how you score.

Imprisoned Swallowed by a great fish Shipwrecked Thrown in a lion's den

Related posts from The God Article with Mark Sandlin

Progressive Christian

Following Jesus in the Age of Trump: Resistance...

The God Article with Mark Sandlin

Progressive Christian

10 Things You Can't Vote For While Following...

The God Article with Mark Sandlin

Progressive Christian

The Lord’s Prayer: DEscription Not PREscription (6 of...

The God Article with Mark Sandlin

Progressive Christian

The Lord’s Prayer: DEscription Not PREscription (5 of...

The God Article with Mark Sandlin

TRENDING AT PATHEOS Progressive Christian

What Being a Modern-Day Apostle Means to Me

In my last column, I discussed the ins and outs of modern-day...

Did Ancient China Once Worship the God of...

Across human history, a common thread weaves through the origins of the...

Love Your Neighbor – Including Earth-Kin: Lev. 19,...

God’s command to love your neighbor means acting in an ethical and...

Lead a Church Study of “Jesus and Lao...

Guest writer Jack Thomas (The Irreverent Reverend) reflects on leading his church...

Pastoral Wisdom for Responding to Sermon Pushback

Getting sermon pushback on your social justice sermon? Learn practical, Proverbs-based strategies...

Principles for Understanding the Apostolic Ministry Today

Whenever people discover that my formal ministry title is "apostle," as in...

view all Progressive Christian blogs

Patheos on Facebook Patheos on YouTube

Ad-Free & Subscriber Log-In Subscription Support

Copyright 2008-2026, Patheos. All rights reserved.

Subscription Support Ad-Free & Subscriber Log-In

Follow Patheos Patheos on Facebook Patheos on YouTube