Patheos

BuddhistCatholicContemplativeEvangelicalGeneral ChristianHinduJewishLatter-day SaintMuslimNew VisionsProgressive Christian

Beliefs

Topics

Columnists

Resource Library

Research Tools

Video

Podcasts

Thought Readers

Faith In Media Tracker

Newsletters

Ad-Free & Subscriber Log-In Subscription Support

Patheos

Ad-Free & Subscriber Log-In Subscription Support

Follow Patheos Patheos on Facebook Patheos on YouTube

The Atheist Rabbi

The Afterlife

Last updated on: March 10, 2011 at 7:48 pm   by Jeffrey L. Falick

The Afterlife 2011-03-10T19:48:00-05:00 Jeffrey L. Falick

LOGO Patheos Explore the world's faith through different perspectives on religion and spirituality! Patheos has the views of the prevalent religions and spiritualities of the world.

There’s a new religion debate online featuring Christopher Hitchens, Sam Harris, Rabbi David Wolpe and Rabbi Bradley Shavit-Artson.  It’s framed as a discussion of the afterlife.  I have watched a lot of debates about religion, but this is really one of the best.  This is because what we actually have here are two atheists, Hitchens and Harris, debating two men who don’t have the slightest idea what they really believe in or don’t believe in.

In fact, as far as I can tell, the rabbis actually reject every traditional idea about God and religion.  Instead, they substitute them with partial textual readings, a smattering of skeptical Jewish precedents, vagaries uttered by the sages in their more cantankerous moods and their own emotions.  And they’re not too successful, I should add.  Frankly, I can’t see how they manage to keep it up without becoming strained by intellectual exhaustion.

The core of their convictions (to the extent that they can articulate a conviction) is that they are certain that we are all made of more than “stuff.”  The source of their discomfort is that they are unable to cope with the reality that we’re made of the same stuff as leaves, bugs and bacteria.  And when we die, our fate is more or less that of leaves, bugs and bacteria.  I guess they feel that this somehow demotes humanity.

Watching this debate while knowing that Hitchens needs the comforting reassurance of a happy afterlife right now more than the rest of us, reminds me that we don’t have to give up our intellectual integrity in the face of death.  We’re all going to die.  Everything that has ever lived will fall to death.  We humans don’t have a special essence that protects us from this.  Our mind (which is our brain which is our “soul”) isn’t going to survive this life in any form whatsoever.  We’re not going to heaven and we’re not going to become one with any kind of super-consciousness present in the universe.

Wolpe spoke about shoveling dirt in his father’s grave and finding solace in the fact that what was in the coffin was not really his father.  It’s true that he experienced his father as more than just a human shell.  But that was his father in the box.  His father is nowhere else, except (and from this he can take some comfort) in his own memories.  Like all forms of life, humans are recycled right back into the environment.  Until the day comes that our consciousness can be downloaded into a sophisticated artificial environment (and that’s only speculative science fiction), when we’re gone we’re really, really gone.

This is why secular humanism proposes that we seize each day of our extraordinary lives.  We have already won an against-all-odds lottery by coming into this world and we should enjoy it and infuse it with our own unique meaning.  We should also work hard to elevate the dignity and well being of all human beings so that they can enjoy their lives, too.

As I mentioned above, the only plausible afterlife is the memories we create with our loved ones and others.  Especially since I have had children, I have made it my goal every day to earn that version of the afterlife.  I won’t be the one enjoying it, but I’m certain that it will provide some measure of consolation for my daughters.

Maybe this is not as cheering as the idea of a posthumous personal existence, but it has the merit of being true.

Blog Entries

Atheism

Liberal Religions and Theologies

Non-theism

Previous Post



March 8, 2011

Critical Creationist Crapola

Next Post



March 14, 2011 Angry, Angry Atheists


Browse Our Archives

Select a Category Blog Entries

Select a Month January 2017 August 2016 July 2016 June 2016 May 2016 April 2016 February 2016 January 2016 December 2015 November 2015 October 2015 September 2015 August 2015 July 2015 June 2015 May 2015 March 2015 December 2014 February 2014 December 2013 October 2013 June 2013 May 2013 April 2013 March 2013 February 2013 January 2013 December 2012 September 2012 August 2012 June 2012 May 2012 April 2012 March 2012 February 2012 January 2012 December 2011 November 2011 October 2011 September 2011 July 2011 June 2011 May 2011 April 2011 March 2011 February 2011 January 2011 December 2010 November 2010 October 2010 September 2010


Follow Us!

Follow Us on Facebook



TAKE THE

Religious Wisdom Quiz

What proportion of lepers healed by Jesus returned to thank Him?

Select your answer to see how you score.

All ten Five One out of ten None

Related posts from The Atheist Rabbi

Nonreligious

Trumpism Unites Neo-Nazis, Jewish Defense League

The Atheist Rabbi

Nonreligious

Jackie Mason Has Opinions

The Atheist Rabbi

Nonreligious

The New Resistance

The Atheist Rabbi

Nonreligious

Jewish Community: Black Lives Matter No Matter What

The Atheist Rabbi

TRENDING AT PATHEOS Nonreligious

Dethroning Jesus and Enthroning Yourself

Jesus Never Asked to Be Worshipped. He Asked to Be Understood. Christianity...

Why Most Christians are Really Paulians and Jobians

I Don't Care, But It Matters Let's get this out of the...

Essential Tips to Successfully Navigate the Selling Process

Selling a house can feel overwhelming, but it doesn’t have to be....

To Make Remote Work Effective, Think About Others

The COVID-19 pandemic forced many companies to rapidly transition to remote work....

Flexibility Is Key to Solving Problems of Tomorrow

The world of work is undergoing a dramatic transformation. The COVID-19 pandemic...

view all Nonreligious blogs

Patheos on Facebook Patheos on YouTube

Ad-Free & Subscriber Log-In Subscription Support

Copyright 2008-2026, Patheos. All rights reserved.

Subscription Support Ad-Free & Subscriber Log-In

Follow Patheos Patheos on Facebook Patheos on YouTube