BuddhistCatholicContemplativeEvangelicalGeneral ChristianHinduJewishLatter-day SaintMuslimNew VisionsProgressive Christian
Beliefs
- Buddhist
- Catholic
- Contemplative
- Evangelical
- General Christian
- Hindu
- Jewish
- Latter-day Saint
- More Voices
- Muslim
- New Visions
- Pagan
- Progressive Christian
Topics
- Religion News
- Food and Religion
- Sports and Religion
- Religious Art
- Religious Music and Entertainment
- Religious Events
- History and Religion
- Style and Religion
- Politics and Religion
- Women in Religion
- Recreation Outdoors and Religion
- Business Finance and Religion
- Careers Workplace and Religion
- Education and Religion
- Family Parenting and Religion
- Health Fitness and Religion
- Home and Religion
- Relationships and Religion
- Technology and Religion
- Travel and Religion
Columnists
- Buddhist Columnists
- Business Finance and Religion Columnists
- Careers Workplace and Religion Columnists
- Catholic Columnists
- Contemplative Columnists
- Education and Religion Columnists
- Evangelists Columnists
- Family Parenting and Religion Columnists
- General Christian Columnists
- Health Fitness and Religion Columnists
- Hindu Columnists
- History and Religion Columnists
- Home and Religion Columnists
- Jewish Columnists
- More Voices Columnists
- Latter Day Columnists
- Muslim Columnists
- New Visions Columnists
- Nonreligious Columnists
- Pagan Columnists
- Politics and Religion Columnists
- Progressive Columnists
- Recreation Outdoors and Religion Columnists
- Relationships and Religion Columnists
- Religion News Columnists
- Religious Art Columnists
- Religious Events Columnists
- Religious Music and Entertainment Columnists
- Sports and Religion Columnists
- Style and Religion Columnists
- Technology and Religion Columnists
- Travel and Religion Columnists
- Women in Religion Columnists
Resource Library
- 2026 Calendar
- Library of World Religions
- The 100 Most Holy Places on Earth
- Patheos Answers
- Podcasts
- Videos
- Faith Leaders Database
- Anglican Episcopalian
- Bahai
- Baptist
- Buddhism
- Christianity
- Confucianism
- Eastern Orthodoxy
- Hinduism
- Holiness and Pentecostal
- ISKCON
- Islam
- Judaism
- Lutheran
- Methodist
- The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
- New Age
- Paganism
- Presbytarian and Reformed
- Protestantism
- Religion Behind the Scenes
- Roman Catholic
- Scientology
- Shia Islam
- Sikhism
- Sufism
- Sunni Islam
- Taoism
- Zen
- See all religions
Research Tools
Ad-Free & Subscriber Log-In Subscription Support
Ad-Free & Subscriber Log-In Subscription Support
- Trending:
- Forgiveness
- |
- Marriage
- |
- Consciousness
- |
- Death Penalty
- |
- Election
- |
- Halloween
The Anchoress
- Home
- Catholic
- So-Called Christians who make me ill
So-Called Christians who make me ill
Last updated on: March 17, 2017 at 8:30 pm by Elizabeth Scalia
So-Called Christians who make me ill 2017-03-17T20:30:07+00:00 Elizabeth Scalia
Patheos Explore the world's faith through different perspectives on religion and spirituality! Patheos has the views of the prevalent religions and spiritualities of the world.
John Stephenson has a video up of this Phelps-Roper woman spewing her disgusting “bible-based” rhetoric. Watching just a bare minute of it made tremble, not in fear of the Lord, as this woman might like, but in pure revulsion. I transcribed a little:
“‘Sempre Fi Fags’ means, ‘you are always faithful to the fags…’ not only that but you have sinned away your grace and America is doomed! Why don’t they file a lawsuit against the Lord their God, they are messing with the wrong God…you don’t get to call the Word of God hatred, missy…You’re messing with the wrong God, also…(American soldiers) are being cut off by the same (garbled) God who is cuttin’ off the children of America…God hates fags…You’re proud*! You’re proud of your sins. You can’t do enough sinning. You think ‘gay’ pride,* bimbo*. You have sinned away your day of grace!”*
She quotes Leviticus “Thou shalt not suffer this sin upon them but in anywise rebuke them…that means you warn ’em that their sin is takin’ them to hell an’ if you don’t do that you (garbled) hate (garbled) in your heart.”
Hmmmmm……so this woman stands outside of military funerals and harrasses the mourners because she looooooooves everyone so much in the Lord. She calls down hell upon homosexuals because she looooooooooves them so much in the Lord.
Sometimes I wonder if there are people out there who embrace scripture simply so they can distort it and try to use it to excuse all of their twisted hate and bitterness.
I’m guessing “hate the sin and love the sinner” is not a big motto in this Phelps-Roper household. And I guess she doesn’t give credence to the idea that to “rebuke” or “admonish” does not mean “stand in judgement of…” but rather that we sinners, having tasted the Milk and Honey, are called to bring our fellow sinners to understanding of where we fall short and how we distance ourselves from God, that we may help them know Christ and his mercy and grace.
Nothing I read in scripture tells me that the job of a Christian is to pronounce doom on a nation, use words like “fag” (homosexual is a perfectly useful word for what you want to say, Mrs. Phelps, and I doubt Jesus would call a homosexual a “fag”) and decide in a matter of discourse with another person whether that person is going to heaven or hell. That judgement belongs to God, alone, and it seems to me a grave sin against humility for any human to point their finger and tell another the state of their soul.
What did Paul write in his letter to the Colossians 3:12-17
Because you are God’s chosen ones, holy and beloved, clothe yourself with compassion, kindness, lowliness, meekness and patience, forebearing one another and, if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other; as the Lord has forgiven you, so you must forgive. And over all these put on love, which binds everything together in perfect harmony. And let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts, to which indeed you were called in the one body. And be thankful. Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly, as you teach and admonish one another in all wisdom, and as you sing psalms and hymns and spiritual songs with thankfulness in your hearts to God. And whatever you do, in word or deed, do everything in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.
I know there are some monastic houses where the infection of political correctness has seeped in and made a community decide that their commitment to “peace and justice” has inspired them to omit those sections of the psalms which are “dark” or “vengeful” or “desolate” from their recitations of the Divine Office. I think that’s a mistake. The psalms are a perfect reflection of the human experience and the human condition, and to omit any part of it because it makes you uncomfortable is to push away some truths about just how dark the world, and the humans in it, can be. Contrarily, there seem to be some Christians who cull the starkest, least merciful verses of scripture in order to embrace them to their withered souls in the interest of “justice.”
In both cases, the intentional omission/editing of scripture – or the rabid emphasis on one part of scripture over another – seems to me to smack of imbalance and pride – who is anyone to decide that one verse of scripture is more or less worthy of prayer, meditation and action, than any other verse? Even if their intention is a noble one, the fact remains that a mere human, or a mere community, really has no business deciding what part of God’s word should be left aside because it doesn’t fit the times or the mores. What was it Chesteron said, “the moment you choose anything, you reject everything else…”
Scripture is not meant to be picked over, with some morsels plucked for their sweetness (or their bitterness if your heart is bitter) and others left behind as unappetizing. It is meant to be taken as a whole, for it is as huge as your whole life and it takes that long to begin – just to begin – to digest it.
The woman from Fox News (I don’t watch, and I seem to see two names for her online, Julie Meyers and Julie Bandares) seemed as sickened by this diamond-hard-with-hate-eyed Phelps woman as I was, and she lost control of herself. Perhaps the best response to a woman like this is a soft, “I’ll pray for you,” but it wouldn’t shut her up.
I got a lot of emails from people telling me last week that to respond or react to Ann Coulter gives her the publicity she craves, and that if I could not comprehend the method in her madness, then I should just ignore her and “not criticize a fellow conservative.” (I’ll leave aside for now the issue of how these folks dishing out the advice were the same folk who do nothing but criticize those conservatives who don’t fall in line…that’s for another day.)
Perhaps they are right, that I should merely have ignored Coulter. The same could be said about this woman – to respond to her gives her publicity, makes her known, gives more exposure to her filthy rants. But in both cases (and I am not lumping Coulter in with these Phelps disasters – next to them she is an angel with a halo…) my own conscience will not let me simply “ignore” them and let them stand – unremarked upon – as examples of America, or of Christians, or of Conservatives or of Women. As a woman and a Christian, and an American, I cannot help but respond to the antics of both women and say, “please understand…these women are free to speak their minds, but I believe their pronouncements are abberations…this is uncommon…”
Maybe someday in the grand scheme of things, I will be proved wrong about all of the things I feel so passionately about. I’ll find out that the over-the-top Coulters and the warped Phelpses and the (I think patriotic but too extreme) “ship all those Mexicans back – every one of them” folk were right and I was wrong. Someday I’ll know all of what is right and wrong.
Or perhaps I’ll learn that being “right” was never all that important – that being kind trumped being “right.” Til then I can only go by my own lights and what small wisdom the Holy Spirit finds fit to lay upon me…and by that light, all I can see is that this language of spittle and hate, of mockery and malice…it is not fit for human consumption. It is pure poison.
Meanwhile these Phelps people seem intent on fighting for their right to wound the very souls they say they’re trying to save. In deference to Jeanette’s comment, yes, let’s call them cultists, shall we?
Michelle Malkin has the video and a link to the Patriot Guard Riders. Mudville Gazette links in the Dawn Patrol. Johnopedia links to a warning about making hasty generalizations and lumping all Christians – or all anybodies – together. Probably good for all of us to remember at one point or another. Sigh. Also, check out Newton’s take on all of this and her publican/tax collector musing on law and love.
Previous Post

June 11, 2006
Carnival of Recipes
Next Post

June 12, 2006 The same tired slogans, the same tired breasts
Browse Our Archives
Select a Category "Remaking" Ourselves 'Remaking' America 9/10 Mindset 9/11 trials Abortion ACORN Adoration Advent Advent 2008 Advent 2009 Advent 2010 Alternative Energy Alternative Media America American Catholic Church American Church American Genius Ameridolatry ANCHORESS BOOKSHELF Anglican-Roman Reconciliation Answers & Questions Anti_Semitism Archbishop Hilarion Ayn Rand Bad Mass Barack Obama Baseball Benedict Benedict & Islam Benedict in UK Benedict XVI Benedictine Bill Whittle Birth Control Blogs and Blogging Blogs and Blogging Bloodless Coup Bobby Jindal Bookchat Breitbart Bride at every wedding... Bride at every wedding... Buckley Bullies Bush Bad? Bush Good Buster Capitalism Catholic Fiction Catholic Vocations Catholicism Celibacy Chaput Charitable Stuff Chesterton Chile Chris Christie Christians in Exile Christine O' Donnell Christmas Christmas Gift Ideas Church Hates Science? Church hates women Communion of Saints Compline Conclave 2013 Confession Constitutional Stuff Conversion Crisis & Opportunity Critical Thinking Crooks and Liars Crucible of Faith Cuba Culture of Life Culture of Life/Death Culture of Treason? Dancing Death Dialogue re Islam Dick Meyer Divorce and Remarriage DOJ Domestic Terrorism Dominican Order Don't try me too high Dowd Dumb Democrat moves Dumb GOP moves Economic woe Education Egregious Harry Reid Elder Son Elder Son's Sweet Girlfriend Elderly Election '10 Election '12 Election '16 Election 2004 Election 2006 Election 2008 Election 2010 Election 2016 Elena Kagan Elitism Embryonic Stem Cell Research End Times? English language Enhanced Interrogation Erosion of Rights Eucharist Euthanasia Exorcism Extraordinary Synod Facebook Faith Faith and Reason Faith Friday Faith Perspective Faithful Friday Fascism Again Fascism in America Fatima FCC Feminism Film First Things Forgiveness Fr. James Martin Francis and Islam Francis in America Frassati Fred Thompson Free Speech? Freedom of Worship FutureChurch Global Pandemic GOP Congress Haiti Head Covering Health Care Here and Queer Hermits Heroes Hitchens Holy Spirit Holy Week '09 Holy Week '10 Hoo-Hah & BS Hoo-Hah & BS Icons Illegal Immigration In The Arena Interviews Interwebz Iran Uprising Iraqi Christians ISIL ISIS Islamic State Islamification/Islamofascism Islamification/Islamofascism Isra-El It's all about me! Me! ME! James Burke Jerry Lewis Jesus Christ Joblessness John Boehner John McCain John Paul II John XXIII Juan Williams Just Words Katrina/Rita King is a Fink Latin Mass Leadership Lectio Divina Lent Lent '08 Lent '09 Lent 2010 Lent 2011 Limbaugh Listen to Lizzie Litigious Society Liturgy Liturgy of the Hours Mainstream Media Manliness Marriage Mary Media Excess Medical Merton Michelle Obama Mighty John O' Connor Misc. Miss Ella Missionaries Mitt Romney Monasticism My brother S My Irish Aunties Mystic Monks Nanny Statism Nature NEA Neri New Media Newman Noonan Notre Dame NPR Stuff Nun News Obama Bad? Obama Good? Obama White House Oil Spill Online Retreat '08 Online Retreat Days Oratory Orthodoxy Our Hillary! Parenting Passionists Patheos Patheos Book Club Patrons Paul Ryan Penance Penn Jillette Philosophy PJTV Podcasts Poetry Politics-free zone Pop Culture Pope Emeritus Pope Francis Prayer Predictions Priesthood Pro-Life Public Sector Unions Purgatory Questions about Catholicism Quotes of the Day Quoting the News Race in America rants Recipes Remarried Catholics Reposts by request Retreat thoughts Rome Rudy Giuliani Russia Saints Sarah Palin Scandal Scott Brown SCOTUS Scriptural stuff Secularism Send in the clowns Serving up hot links Sexuality Sherrod Shroud of Turin Sisters and Nuns Social Entrepreneurship Social Media Social Security Socialism doesn't work Sports and Faith Stem Cells Strange Gods Suffering Synod Tea Parties Tea Party Terri Schiavo The 9/11 Commission The Catholic Answer The Constitution The Desert The Fourth Estate The Pelosi The Perpetual Adolescents The Rosary Third Party? Timothy Dolan Touch of evil TSA Tsunami TV/Pop Culture/Music TV/Pop Culture/Music Twitter Uncategorized Unemployment Unintended Consequences US Military Vaginal Musings Vatican Vespers video faves Vile Joe Biden Voter Fraud War by Litigation War on Terror War, What it good for? Why can't weeee be ... World Youth Days Year of Faith Year of the Priest
Select a Month August 2016 July 2016 April 2016 March 2016 January 2016 December 2015 November 2015 October 2015 September 2015 August 2015 July 2015 June 2015 May 2015 April 2015 March 2015 February 2015 January 2015 December 2014 November 2014 October 2014 September 2014 August 2014 July 2014 June 2014 May 2014 April 2014 March 2014 February 2014 January 2014 December 2013 November 2013 October 2013 September 2013 August 2013 July 2013 June 2013 May 2013 April 2013 March 2013 February 2013 January 2013 December 2012 November 2012 October 2012 September 2012 August 2012 July 2012 June 2012 May 2012 April 2012 March 2012 February 2012 January 2012 December 2011 November 2011 October 2011 September 2011 August 2011 July 2011 June 2011 May 2011 April 2011 March 2011 February 2011 January 2011 December 2010 November 2010 October 2010 September 2010 August 2010 July 2010 June 2010 May 2010 April 2010 March 2010 February 2010 January 2010 December 2009 November 2009 October 2009 September 2009 August 2009 July 2009 June 2009 May 2009 April 2009 March 2009 February 2009 January 2009 December 2008 November 2008 October 2008 September 2008 August 2008 July 2008 June 2008 May 2008 April 2008 March 2008 February 2008 January 2008 November 2007 October 2007 September 2007 August 2007 July 2007 June 2007 May 2007 March 2007 February 2007 January 2007 December 2006 November 2006 October 2006 September 2006 August 2006 July 2006 June 2006 May 2006 April 2006 March 2006 February 2006 January 2006 December 2005 November 2005 September 2005 August 2005 July 2005 June 2005 May 2005 April 2005 March 2005 February 2005 January 2005 December 2004 November 2004 October 2004 August 2004
Follow Us!
TAKE THE
Religious Wisdom Quiz
What symbolic act did Jeremiah perform to show Judah's coming captivity?
Select your answer to see how you score.
Built a model city Laid on his side Wore an ox yoke Walked naked
Related posts from The Anchoress
"Internet Catholics be Crazy": Anchoress at America Magazine
BREAKING: Black Mass Satanic Temple Walks Back: Do...
"Yes we will use a Consecrated Host" at...
No Confirmation Yet on Harvard Black Mass Story
TRENDING AT PATHEOS Catholic
The Parable Of The Sower And The Word...
One of Christ’s most famous parables is that of the sower who...
Rejecting Doom: Christian Hope And Human Action
Christianity is a religion of hope. We are to have hope and...
Why I Choose the Eucharist Over the Sermon
Choose the Eucharist, Not the Sermon What are we supposed to get...
5 Design Elements Found in Spiritually Rooted Homes
Putting Spirituality Into Home Decor Our homes are more than our living...
Credo: A Story of God Told with the...
About 10 years ago, I began to imagine a personal "Credo" that...
The Anatomy of Divine Revelation in Catholic Thought
The claim that God has made Himself known to human beings is...
view all Catholic blogs
Ad-Free & Subscriber Log-In Subscription Support
- About Us
- 2026 Calendar
- Videos
- Podcasts
- Library of World Religions
- Faith In Media Tracker
- Advertise With Us
- Write for Us
- Privacy Policy
- Terms of Service
- Do Not Sell My Data
- Contact Us
- Radiant Digital
- Manage Newsletter Subscriptions
- Unsubscribe From Notifications
- Sitemap
Copyright 2008-2026, Patheos. All rights reserved.
Subscription Support Ad-Free & Subscriber Log-In







