{"id":1044,"date":"2024-07-09T15:06:37","date_gmt":"2024-07-09T19:06:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/switchingsides\/?p=1044"},"modified":"2024-07-09T15:06:37","modified_gmt":"2024-07-09T19:06:37","slug":"conversion-deconversion-and-initiation-ceremonies","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/switchingsides\/2024\/07\/conversion-deconversion-and-initiation-ceremonies\/","title":{"rendered":"Conversion, Deconversion, and Initiation Ceremonies"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<\/head>

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Conversion<\/h1>\n Within Christianity, there is a theological and social concept called \u201cconversion.\u201d In the mind of most Christian, there exists a demarcation line in time that represents the moment in which a person is \u201csaved.\u201d So that, if the person were to die a second prior to this moment in time, that person would go to hell, but if the person were to die the next second after, he or she would go to heaven.<\/p>\n The social sciences, however, do not have access to the hearts and minds of a person. Consequently, giving an anthropological definition of conversion becomes a bit more complicated.<\/p>\n For instance, if a man walks into his therapist\u2019s office and says, \u201cI just got saved! I\u2019m a Christian now!\u201d the therapist is treating this guy for his emotions and thinking. The only thing the therapist is going to be interested in is, how does this new development affect the client? If nothing changes, this is not much different than him telling the therapist that he had an egg-salad sandwich for lunch.<\/p>\n On a larger scale, if an anthropologist were studying a village in Peru, all of whom worshiped Quetzalcoatl, and then a missionary comes in and many of them begin attending Sunday school, the anthropologist must ask the question, \u201chave these people converted to Christianity?\u201d Maybe they have. Or maybe they simply have nothing better to do on Sunday mornings.<\/p>\n In the social sciences, one must ask, \u201cWhat does it mean to be \u2018converted\u2019 and how can you say that a person or people group have \u2018converted\u2019?\u201d<\/p>\n It\u2019s more complicated than it might seem.<\/p>\n There are two popular models used within the social sciences to represent conversion. The first of these is the Gerlach and Hines model<\/strong>. It has seven stages a person must complete in order to be converted. They are:<\/p>\n \nThe initial contact with a religious person<\/li>\nA focus on the person\u2019s needs. This would be like the sales tactic where you demonstrate the customer has a need that requires some kind of solution.<\/li>\nInteracting with the religious group which results in some kind of understanding of how the religion works.<\/li>\nThe Decision and surrender of that person.<\/li>\nA \u201cCommitment event\u201d<\/li>\nTestifying to the experience<\/li>\nGroup support for the change<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n In the average Christian mind, the person is probably \u201csaved\u201d at around step four: the \u201cdecision and surrender\u201d stage.<\/p>\n A sociologist, however, would not be satisfied there. He or she would want to see the person commit, and incorporate into the group.<\/p>\n This next model is apparently the standard model across the board. It\u2019s the most frequently cited in studies on religion and religious conversion. This is the celebrated Lofland and Stark model. It also has seven stages and looks like this:<\/p>\n \nFirst, the person is experiencing some kind of enduring, and acutely felt tensions. This is like step 2 in the last model, except this time, it\u2019s not the religious person trying to sell them on their problems. This person has problems, and they know it.<\/li>\nNow the person is looking for solutions within a religious problem-solving perspective. Now we can sort of compare this to the last model again. The person has a problem. Maybe they are already aware of it, or a religious person sells them on it, but either way, they are looking to religion as a possible solution.<\/li>\nAfter looking into religion \u2013 either superficially or in earnest \u2013 the person begins thinking of his or herself as a religious seeker. If one were to interview the person at this stage, he or she might say he or she is \u201cspiritual person,\u201d or begin telling the interviewer interesting things about religion. The person has not committed, but he or she has adopted an identity as being a \u201cseeker.\u201d<\/li>\nAt stage four, Lofland and Stark say the person has \u201cEncounter a D.P. [Divine Precepts] at a turning point in life.\u201d What does that mean? It is a moment of epiphany. Seekers have an \u201cOh THAT\u2019S what they\u2019re saying,\u201d kind of moment where they suddenly understand something about the religion that kind of strikes a cord with them. So first, they have to \u201cget it,\u201d and secondly, it has to really speak to their interests and needs at that particular moment.<\/li>\nAt stage five, the person forms a bond with another convert. The model says the bond might form at this point, or pre-exist, but the bond must be there after the epiphany moment.<\/li>\nAt stage six, all of their other interests and attachments become dissolved or at a lower priority. Suddenly religion is of top shelf importance.<\/li>\nIn the last stage, the person begins heavy interaction with the religious community. This becomes their main social group, if you will.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n The thing that really stands out in the literature on conversion is a focus on community. One can sit up in one\u2019s cabin in the woods reading one\u2019s bible and spending time in prayer, but at the end of the day, a scientist isn\u2019t going to really consider this person a convert unless he or she is hanging out with the rest of the group participating in religious activities. And this is not without some results.<\/p>\n It is frequently suggested that divorce rates among Christians are just as bad as those experienced by non-Christians, however those statistics don\u2019t hold if one accounts for church attendance. The less a family attends church, the higher their divorce rates are. The more heavily involved they are in church, the further the divorce rates drop. There are data that suggest that higher church attendance is linked to better mental and physical health. Ultimately, participation in the church community makes a significant difference, and is one of the defining factors social scientists look for in conversion.<\/p>\n Initiations<\/h1>\n Initiation rituals are quite important in society. If a person joins a sorority, there is typically an initiation ritual. The same is true of societies such as the Freemasons and even street gangs. These sorts of initiation rituals are important to both the person and the group, because they mark a point when the person moves from \u201cnot one of us\u201d to \u201cone of us.\u201d<\/p>\n The Jewish Rite of Initiation<\/p>\n The Jewish rite of initiation, circumcision, is different than most religions. This stands apart because Judaism is both a race and a religion. Meaning one can be circumcised, making that person part of the Jewish people, and then later become an atheist. The person still has physical evidence that he is a Jew, but he does not participate in the religion associated with Jews.<\/p>\n The Christian Initiation<\/h1>\n When a person joins Christianity, that person is typically expected to undergo baptism at some point.<\/p>\n Among Christians, Baptism can be a point of disagreement. It\u2019s significance in terms of spiritual salvation is a matter of debate, as is the interval and age at which the baptism must occur. Viewed as a rite of initiation, however, baptism makes much more sense in the process of entering the religion.<\/p>\n Children who are raised in a Christian family within the context of a Christian church are part of that community. So, some kind of ceremony signifying that they are part of that community doesn\u2019t seem inappropriate for the community. Some churches do dedication ceremonies. Others hold a ceremony of baptism and then give out a certificate which they keep on record. This is especially true of European churches, because the church is something associated with the nation. It becomes a matter of national identity to go through the Anglican baptism, for instance.<\/p>\n But as an adult, a person might want to go through an initiation ceremony because they want to take a more volitional role in the community. They are no longer being raised in the community, they are now an active part of the community.<\/p>\n \u201cExit Ceremonies\u201d<\/h1>\n One of the difficulties experienced by people who have moved from religion to atheism is the loss<\/em> of community. Research tends to indicate that it the community that rejects the person, not the other way around. Some undergo an experienced known as \u201cshunning.\u201d And apparently this happens in a lot of different religious communities, although Latter Day Saints and Jehovah\u2019s Witnesses are best known for this.<\/p>\n Either way, this loss of community is damaging. If a person were to move from Christianity to Islam, he or she would be losing one community, but would be adopted into another. There is no loss of community itself, just a transition between <\/em>communities. The person loses one community, but gains another. This is one thing that separates conversion from deconversion: does the person move into<\/em> a community, or move away from community entirely?<\/p>\n During the height of the movement, there was an active move within the atheism movement at large to make up for this loss of community. Humans need community, and going to a solitary lifestyle (especially if one is accustomed to being part of a community) it can be devastating.<\/p>\n To be fair, people who become atheists tend to be more predisposed to individualism and antiauthoritarianism, but at the end of the day, they appear to still crave community.<\/p>\n It was trendy at one point for atheists to establish \u201catheist churches,\u201d or other programs for \u201clife after God.\u201d And after deconversion, people DO tend to seek these things out. More recently it has been support groups for \u201cdeconstruction.\u201d<\/p>\n Initiation ceremonies became part of these groups as well.<\/p>\n These might include giving personal info, and to say and do certain things on these websites and conferences, partly as a way to avoid being infiltrated by insincere individuals \u2013 religious people posing as deconverts.<\/p>\n In Europe, some atheist groups began to \u201cde-baptisms\u201d which involved, among other things, attempts to remove records of their baptisms.<\/p>\n Another initiation ceremony performed by some groups of atheists were events in which they \u201cblasphemed the holy spirit.\u201d Allegedly, to perform blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is unforgivable according to Christian doctrine, such that the deconverts were burning their bridges behind them.<\/p>\n A final ceremony once performed in Atheist circles would be a \u201cbaby naming,\u201d a substitute for infant baptism.<\/p>\n Despite the fact that deconversion is supposed to be a movement away <\/em>from religion, it seems that some people still feel the need for initiation ceremonies, which in this case might be called \u201cexit ceremonies\u201d to signify the need to quit the religion altogether. For reasons unknown, initiation ceremonies are an essential part of life transitions, and this includes the transition away from religious participation.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":" Conversion Within Christianity, there is a theological and social concept called \u201cconversion.\u201d In the mind of most Christian, there exists a demarcation line in time that represents the moment in which a person is \u201csaved.\u201d So that, if the person were to die a second prior to this moment in time, that person would go 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