{"id":1836,"date":"2023-03-16T20:15:18","date_gmt":"2023-03-17T00:15:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/spiritualnaturalist\/?p=1836"},"modified":"2023-03-16T20:15:18","modified_gmt":"2023-03-17T00:15:18","slug":"the-sacred-and-the-profane","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/spiritualnaturalist\/2023\/03\/the-sacred-and-the-profane\/","title":{"rendered":"The Sacred and the Profane"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

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Thomas Schenk<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/header>\n<\/head>

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""In his book,\u00a0The Elementary Forms of Religious Life<\/i>, sociologist Emile Durkheim begins his study of religion by noting that central to all religions is a distinction between the sacred and the profane and that religion has to do with sacred things.<\/p>\n

Mircea Eliade in his book,\u00a0The Sacred and Profane,<\/i>\u00a0provides details on the range of objects and subjects that various peoples throughout the world have considered sacred. He divides the topic by sacred places and objects, sacred times, and sacred people.<\/p>\n

That early people should find places such as Devils Tower, Wyoming; Shiprock, New Mexico; or the Grand Canyon (to name a few that I\u2019ve visited) is not surprising. Such places still have a strong effect on us. Modern aesthetics includes the label of the sublime for such places, places that stand out so strikingly against the ordinary landscapes that we can\u2019t help but be fascinated by them.<\/p>\n

Yet many objects and places considered sacred are rather ordinary. Sacred trees, sacred stones, sacred springs are common in traditional religions around the world.\u00a0The range of objects across the globe that are considered sacred are bewilderingly varied. (In an article I published here on Dec. 7, 1917, titled \u201cThe Spirit Tree,\u201d I discuss one such object, a tree considered sacred by the Chippewas of Northern Minnesota). That such objects are found throughout the globe and to the beginning of recorded history and earlier, tells us that the idea of the sacred reveals a deep tendency in human nature, irrational as we moderns might find the idea.<\/p>\n

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In his\u00a0Religion in Essence and Manifestation<\/i>, Gerardus van der Leeuw writes: \u201cthe first affirmation we can make about the Object of Religion is that it is a highly exceptional and extremely impressive \u2018other\u2019.\u201d\u00a0 He adds that this \u201cObject\u201d is \u201ca departure from all that is usual and familiar.\u201d In other words, a departure from the ordinary \u201cprofane\u201d world. Van der Leeuw goes on to say that what makes these objects of religion exceptional is the perception that they contain some kind of power, they draw our attention.<\/p>\n

From a naturalistic perspective, this \u201cpower to draw our attention\u201d cannot be an objective aspect of the world the way a magnet\u2019s power to draw objects is. What\u2019s sacred to one group is meaningless to another. There is nothing that has universally been held sacred(1).\u00a0*\u00a0<\/b>And if not an objective aspect, then it must be either inter-subjective or subjective.<\/p>\n***

From all of this, the obvious conclusion seems to be: nothing is really sacred. But should we jump to that conclusion? We might consider the less obvious conclusion: \u201ceverything is sacred.\u201d<\/p>\n

Van der Leeuw says that sacred objects draw our attention. If this is correct then, from a naturalistic perspective, it means that the difference between the sacred and profane must be a matter of our attention, of our caring.<\/p>\n

Everything is sacred when we see it through the mind of sacred attentiveness. Everything is profane when seen through a mind of profane attention. There is a saying\u00a0in Buddhism<\/a> that \u201cnirvana and samsara are one and the same\u201d which suggest this idea. The Naturalistic equivalent of this might be \u201cthe sacred and profane are one and the same.\u201d The difference between nirvana and samsara, like the difference between the sacred and the profane, belongs not to the world, but to the mind in its perceiving of the world.<\/p>\n

To relate to the world through our ego, through our selfishness, is to relate to the world with a profane mind. To relate through love, selflessness or a non-dualistic wholeness, is to relate with a sacred mind. Spiritual teachings throughout the world, despite their obvious differences, are rather unified in suggesting this.<\/p>\n

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We all have the viewpoint of the profane. It is the natural viewpoint, the viewpoint that makes us most fit to survive and reproduce. But the sacred viewpoint is not a given. It is a cultural accomplishment. It requires knowledge and discipline. It requires us to go against the grain of our natural instincts. The metaphor of ascent is a commonplace of spiritual traditions. Ascent requires constant effort, to go with gravity is our natural inclination. The metaphor of ascent is a reminder of the effort required by spiritual practice.<\/p>\n

This notion, that while we all possess the profane viewpoint only some possess the viewpoint of the sacred is rather troublesome. It creates an inequality, and to introduce such an inequality is not polite. But nonetheless that\u2019s how it is. If one wants to experience the sacred viewpoint, one has to seek it and be prepared for the work and sacrifice that it entails. And part of what must be sacrificed are the assumptions that support the profane viewpoint.<\/p>\n

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To experience the sacred violates no principle of naturalism.\u00a0 Because of the particular conditions in which modern science developed, it had to struggle against the power of religion, both its symbolic power and its political power. Against \u201cthe enchantment\u201d of its symbolic power, science provided facts that had the effect of creating a \u201cdisenchantment\u201d of the world.\u00a0But this sense of disenchantment is not a necessary outcome. Had science arose in different circumstances, its discovery of the marvelous way that the Universe has self-organized may have been found utterly enchanting. As a friend recently said to me, \u201cI think science makes everything seem like a miracle.\u201d The discoveries of science can greatly enhance our awareness and attentiveness to this world, and that can move us to seeing the world in a more sacred light.<\/p>\n

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