Patheos

BuddhistCatholicContemplativeEvangelicalGeneral ChristianHinduJewishLatter-day SaintMuslimNew VisionsProgressive Christian

Beliefs

Topics

Columnists

Resource Library

Research Tools

Video

Podcasts

Thought Readers

Faith In Media Tracker

Newsletters

Ad-Free & Subscriber Log-In Subscription Support

Patheos

Ad-Free & Subscriber Log-In Subscription Support

Follow Patheos Patheos on Facebook Patheos on YouTube

slacktivist

That’s no moon. That’s a …

Last updated on: October 15, 2015 at 5:55 pm   by Fred Clark

That’s no moon. That’s a … 2015-10-15T17:55:32-04:00 Fred Clark

LOGO Patheos Explore the world's faith through different perspectives on religion and spirituality! Patheos has the views of the prevalent religions and spiritualities of the world.

OK, so I read this tantalizing Ross Anderson piece at The Atlantic — “The Most Mysterious Star in Our Galaxy” — and all I could think was Dyson sphere.

This mysterious star so far has only the unlovely name of KIC 8462852, and it’s not even visible to the naked eye. It’s one of 150,000 or so stars being examined by the Kepler Space Telescope in its search for exoplanets. It may have planets orbiting it, but it also seems to have … something else:

The light pattern suggests there is a big mess of matter circling the star, in tight formation. That would be expected if the star were young. When our solar system first formed, four and a half billion years ago, a messy disk of dust and debris surrounded the sun, before gravity organized it into planets, and rings of rock and ice.

But this unusual star isn’t young. If it were young, it would be surrounded by dust that would give off extra infrared light. There doesn’t seem to be an excess of infrared light around this star.

It appears to be mature.

And yet, there is this mess of objects circling it.

To be clear: We have absolutely zero evidence that this “mess of objects” orbiting KIC 8462852 is anything technological. All we really have at this point is some weird and puzzling data. But this is just exactly the sort of weird and puzzling data we might expect to see some day if/when we ever catch our very first glimpse of what might later turn out to be — let’s go ahead and say it — alien technology.

Phil Plait and all the other knowledgeable and responsible scientists I read about space stuff are knowledgeably and responsibly cautioning us not to jump to the long string of conclusions we would need to jump to at this point to decide this isn’t just some weird, new-to-us astronomical phenomenon with a perfectly natural explanation. Plait’s post was titled “Did Astronomers Find Evidence of an Alien Civilization? (Probably Not. But Still Cool.),” and that’s the general message they’re all emphasizing.

I figure it's OK to steal this image because it steals Steve Martin's joke.

I figure it’s OK to steal this image without credit because it steals Steve Martin’s joke without crediting him.

But underneath that cautious and responsible message, they’re all also visibly excited by this weird data about KIC 8462852. Because while we are still far, far away from any solid evidence of alien civilization, that’s not yet something that can be ruled out.

Some initial thoughts:

1. Data from the Kepler Space Telescope is being used in the search for exoplanets with great success so far. It seems our galaxy may have more planets than stars. This data is also being studied by those involved in the search for extraterrestrial intelligence — by bona fide scientists poring over its findings looking for data that might point to evidence of alien technology. We’re searching for signs that someone out there may have built something like a Dyson sphere.

That’s a smart approach. So smart, in fact, that I can’t help but wonder if anyone out there is looking our way and doing the same thing. Maybe some alien scientists have detected evidence of Earth technology, alerting them to our presence here. If so, they may have noticed our high altitude nuclear testing back in the 1950s and ’60s and decided we’re a bunch of dangerous bozos who aren’t worth risking a visit. It doesn’t make us look good that our most visible and prominent technology is stuff we’ve designed to kill one another.

We could improve our interplanetary reputation — and double our chances of SETI success — by undertaking something more peaceful, constructive and attention-grabbing. Like, say, building our own Dyson sphere.

2. The hint of a suggestion of a possibility of a shadow of a glimmer of alien technology is terrifically exciting, and this KIC 8462852 data will likely inspire some great science fiction storytelling. But storytellers should also pay attention to the wild theories attempting to provide a natural explanation for this observation. Don’t just give us stories about first contact or about alien civilizations and technology. I’d also like to see some stories about what it would be like if a renegade Oort Cloud were somehow dragged into our solar system.

3. We really need a better, catchier name for this star than KIC 8462852. Not just because that would be more convenient, but also because there’s a very slim chance that future data will strengthen our suspicion of intelligent life there enough to prompt us to attempt to contact or communicate with them. And if it ever came to that, we’d need some better way to address them than as “People of the KIC 8462852 system.” That would just seem sort of … rude.

4. What are the theological implications of this?

Well, if there is intelligent life out there orbiting KIC 8462852, then I would guess that their civilization probably includes a form — or, more likely, forms — of religion. And those religions likely have sacred texts that they regard as scripture.

So I would further guess that some of the folks looking back at us from out there are denying the possibility of our existence because we aren’t mentioned anywhere in their scriptures. I believe, in other words, that there is probably fundamentalist life in outer space.

These earthling-denying alien fundamentalists, like the terrestrial variety, probably drive most of the religious people of the KIC 8462852 system mad with frustration because of their weirdly obtuse parochialism. “Our scriptures were written by and for us,” these non-fundie believers say to their fundie counterparts for the umpteen-millionth time, “so why would you expect them to say anything about whatever sorts of people might be out there on a watery planet orbiting some distant yellow star? That’s not how scriptures work. That’s not what our scripture is for.”

 

Uncategorized

science

Previous Post



October 15, 2015

Smart people saying smart things (10.15)

Next Post



October 16, 2015 Left Behind Classic Fridays, No. 55: 'Funny you should ask'


Browse Our Archives

Select a Category class warfare evangelicals Iraq Left Behind Mammon music Uncategorized

Select a Month October 2026 September 2026 August 2026 July 2026 June 2026 May 2026 April 2026 March 2026 January 2026 December 2025 November 2025 October 2025 September 2025 August 2025 July 2025 June 2025 May 2025 April 2025 March 2025 February 2025 January 2025 December 2024 November 2024 October 2024 September 2024 August 2024 July 2024 June 2024 May 2024 April 2024 March 2024 February 2024 January 2024 December 2023 November 2023 October 2023 September 2023 August 2023 July 2023 June 2023 May 2023 April 2023 March 2023 February 2023 January 2023 December 2022 November 2022 October 2022 September 2022 August 2022 July 2022 June 2022 May 2022 April 2022 March 2022 February 2022 January 2022 December 2021 November 2021 October 2021 September 2021 August 2021 July 2021 June 2021 May 2021 April 2021 March 2021 February 2021 January 2021 December 2020 November 2020 October 2020 September 2020 August 2020 July 2020 June 2020 May 2020 April 2020 March 2020 February 2020 January 2020 December 2019 November 2019 October 2019 September 2019 August 2019 July 2019 June 2019 May 2019 April 2019 March 2019 February 2019 January 2019 December 2018 November 2018 October 2018 September 2018 August 2018 July 2018 June 2018 May 2018 April 2018 March 2018 February 2018 January 2018 December 2017 November 2017 October 2017 September 2017 August 2017 July 2017 June 2017 May 2017 April 2017 March 2017 February 2017 January 2017 December 2016 November 2016 October 2016 September 2016 August 2016 July 2016 June 2016 May 2016 April 2016 March 2016 February 2016 January 2016 December 2015 November 2015 October 2015 September 2015 August 2015 July 2015 June 2015 May 2015 April 2015 March 2015 February 2015 January 2015 December 2014 November 2014 October 2014 September 2014 August 2014 July 2014 June 2014 May 2014 April 2014 March 2014 February 2014 January 2014 December 2013 November 2013 October 2013 September 2013 August 2013 July 2013 June 2013 May 2013 April 2013 March 2013 February 2013 January 2013 December 2012 November 2012 October 2012 September 2012 August 2012 July 2012 June 2012 May 2012 April 2012 March 2012 February 2012 January 2012 December 2011 November 2011 October 2011 September 2011 August 2011 July 2011 June 2011 May 2011 April 2011 March 2011 February 2011 January 2011 December 2010 November 2010 October 2010 September 2010 August 2010 July 2010 June 2010 May 2010 April 2010 March 2010 February 2010 January 2010 December 2009 November 2009 October 2009 September 2009 August 2009 July 2009 June 2009 May 2009 April 2009 March 2009 February 2009 January 2009 December 2008 November 2008 October 2008 September 2008 August 2008 July 2008 June 2008 May 2008 April 2008 March 2008 February 2008 January 2008 December 2007 November 2007 October 2007 September 2007 August 2007 July 2007 June 2007 May 2007 April 2007 March 2007 February 2007 January 2007 December 2006 November 2006 October 2006 September 2006 August 2006 July 2006 June 2006 May 2006 April 2006 March 2006 February 2006 January 2006 December 2005 November 2005 October 2005 September 2005 August 2005 July 2005 June 2005 May 2005 April 2005 March 2005 February 2005 January 2005 December 2004 November 2004 October 2004 September 2004 August 2004 July 2004 June 2004 May 2004 April 2004 March 2004 February 2004 January 2004 December 2003 November 2003 October 2003 September 2003


Follow Us!

Follow Us on Facebook



TAKE THE

Religious Wisdom Quiz

What city was Paul traveling to when he encountered Jesus in a vision?

Select your answer to see how you score.

Jerusalem Rome Antioch Damascus

Related posts from slacktivist

Family

When will this strong yearning end?

slacktivist

Family

For the day it will come when the...

slacktivist

Family

Postcards from the class & culture wars (10.8.18)

slacktivist

Family

We end up looking like what we believe

slacktivist

TRENDING AT PATHEOS Progressive Christian

Swimfan: Forgotten Aughts Pleasures

This is a recovery effort. In 2002, My Big Fat Greek Wedding...

Top Three Anti-Catholic Lies About Catholicism

  This is my initial transcript for the video, "THE 3 WORST...

Pope Leo Celebrates Mass for Nurses & Docs...

I don't have any idea how he did it, but Pope Leo...

The Sermon on the Mount, Part I: Matthew...

The Sermon on the Mount, Part I (Matthew 4:12-5:12) St. Matthew moves...

What's up from Crossway

What's up from Crossway: Reviewing some of their latest A few weeks...

Janie Learns the Way of the Cross: A...

Teaching children about Jesus' Passion can be challenging. Many parents and educators...

view all Progressive Christian blogs

Patheos on Facebook Patheos on YouTube

Ad-Free & Subscriber Log-In Subscription Support

Copyright 2008-2026, Patheos. All rights reserved.

Subscription Support Ad-Free & Subscriber Log-In

Follow Patheos Patheos on Facebook Patheos on YouTube