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still alive between theism and atheism

Last updated on: June 21, 2013 at 8:05 am   by David Hayward

still alive between theism and atheism 2013-06-21T08:05:48-04:00 David Hayward

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I wrote this meditation for The Lasting Supper, and it’s been stuck in my craw ever since. So I felt I should share it with you.

While I was walking my dog this morning in the warm sunlit air along the river I was thinking about how what I call the z-theory is basically trinitarian in structure. I’m trying to articulate this theory because it helps me understand why I can be a Christian and an Atheist at the same time. I get an email or message or tweet at least daily from someone urging me to make a decision and come out as a real Christian or a real Atheist. I don’t feel the need. Let me try to write it out as simply as possible.

As a Christian, I could impute supernatural meaning to it:

  1. There is the Mystery (That which we call “God”).
  2. There is the Revelation of the Mystery (Jesus).
  3. There is the Assimilation of the Revelation of the Mystery into the human collective (Spirit).

As an Atheist, I could completely strip this theory of the supernatural:

  1. The Unknown.
  2. Our Discovery of the Unknown.
  3. The Assimilation of our Discovery of the Unknown into the human collective.

These two are no different to me. I feel no anxiety about it, nor intend to.

I invite you to subscribe to The Lasting Supper Podcasts, now available on iTunes and Stitcher!

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