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6 Reasons You Shouldn’t Swear an Oath to a God (and 3 Reasons You Should)

Last updated on: February 24, 2019 at 4:00 am   by John Beckett

6 Reasons You Shouldn’t Swear an Oath to a God (and 3 Reasons You Should) 2019-02-15T20:43:11-06:00 John Beckett

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The topic of oaths to Gods has come up a lot lately. I’ve written about it in the context of working with the Gods, people not keeping their oaths, and what to do with oaths made in a previous (i.e. – Christian) religion. More than that, I’ve had numerous private inquiries about oaths over the past couple of weeks.

There aren’t a lot of resources on oaths made in modern polytheist religions and so there are a lot of misunderstandings around them. A complete guide to oaths is beyond the scope of a blog post, but I do want to talk about some common misunderstandings I see, as well as some signs that yes, it really is time to do this.

First, six reasons why you shouldn’t swear an oath to a God.

1. You think you have to do it to be a “real” polytheist

I’m not quite sure how the idea that everyone is supposed to have a patron deity became so popular, but I’ve been dealing with it for quite a few years. The Christian idea of patron saints and guardian angels may have seeped into Paganism and polytheism. Or it may simply be that because the most visible polytheists are usually sworn to a God, people assume that’s what everyone is supposed to do.

This type of relationship was extremely uncommon in ancient times. A deity might be the patron of a town or a tribe – Athena was the patron of Athens. Ordinary people participated in that patronage as members of the group, not as individuals. Priests and civic leaders might swear oaths based on their positions, but individual patronage was uncommon.

That doesn’t mean it’s wrong. We live in a much more individualistic society than ancient Athens or Rome or Ireland. Our religious structures will necessarily be different.

But the core of polytheism remains the worship of the many Gods, and that does not require an oath. It is your prayers, offerings, and service to the Gods that make you a polytheist, not your oaths.

2. You’re in an ecstatic afterglow

The first-hand experience of a God is a powerful thing. Ecstatic divine possession is overwhelming, but simply participating in a well-done devotional ritual can allow people to feel Their presence and Their might. So can private devotions, though that’s generally more difficult for beginners.

It is natural to be deeply moved by these experiences. It is good and right to react with wonder and awe, with reverence and worship. And it’s normal to feel like the proper response is to make a commitment to these holy powers.

It’s also dangerous.

Like falling in love at first sight, what feels good and right in the moment may not be something that will last. Experiencing the Morrigan for yourself is amazing, and sovereignty is a beautiful concept. In the moment it’s easy to forget She’s also a Goddess of Battle, and of the aftermath of battle. Basking in Her power is one thing – tending to the wounded and the dead is something very different.

Oaths are sober affairs and should be made after much reflection and contemplation. Never make an oath in the heat of the moment, no matter how powerful that moment is.

3. You’re not sure who you’re dealing with

As a whole, the many Gods aren’t big on introducing Themselves by name. I really don’t know why. My best guess is They feel like we should know who They are. Or perhaps They’ve found that not giving Their name is a good way to get us to do some research about Them and learn Their lore.

On top of that, our wider community includes a lot of people who are pantheists or soft polytheists, or who haven’t fully examined the assumptions of the monotheist religion of their childhood. We have people who think the Gods are all in our heads. “It’s all One, right?”

No, it isn’t.

If you genuinely believe all Gods are one God I’m not going to tell you you’re wrong. I am going to tell you you’re practicing a very different religion than I am, and I’m not sure how relevant this post is for you.

You wouldn’t marry someone who hadn’t told you their name. You might go to work for someone who wouldn’t identify themselves (if they paid in cash) but you wouldn’t sign a contract with them.

If you aren’t sure who you’re dealing with you aren’t ready to make an oath.

4. You think it will make you powerful

This is another idea I’m not sure how it got started, but I see it from time to time. People think because they’re formally attached to a deity they somehow can tap into that deity’s power. While there’s a certain logic to that, it doesn’t work the way it’s presented. They may provide some of the power needed to accomplish the tasks They give you, but that power is never yours to do with as you please.

Like becoming a priest, making an oath to a God doesn’t make you powerful, or important, or special. It just increases your workload.

5. You haven’t negotiated the terms

An oath is a contract. It says what you will do, how you will do it, and for how long. But what is excluded? What will you not do? What will you receive in return? How will disputes be settled? These are all things to iron out up front, before you make a formal commitment.

Is it impious to negotiate with a God? I don’t think so, and in any case people have done it for centuries. All those covenants in the Old Testament? Those are essentially negotiated contracts. If you can negotiate with Yahweh, you can negotiate with Anyone.

One friend was contemplating a rather complicated arrangement / oath. My recommendation was to negotiate it up front, then have the contract reviewed by a lawyer, a priest, and a diviner. Make sure it covers what needs to be covered, make sure it’s appropriate for the tradition, and make sure it will be accepted.

Because if any of the terms are unclear, they’ll be resolved by the interpretation of the stronger party. Which isn’t you.

6. You don’t understand what it means to swear an oath

If you don’t know what you’re doing, you shouldn’t be doing it. Last year I wrote Why We Make Oaths – I suggest you read it in its entirety.

Oaths build a foundation of confidence and stability, and they’re meant to be kept, no matter what. They build community and intimacy. Sometimes they can be renegotiated, but not always – you should assume that you’ll be held to whatever you promise for as long as you promised it, no matter the circumstances.

If any of these six reasons apply to you, you shouldn’t make an oath to a God. But if the next three sound familiar, maybe you should.

1. You’ve been asked for an oath repeatedly

If you’ve gathered from the above that oaths are something you shouldn’t rush into without great deliberation, you’d be right. My suggestion is that the first time you feel like you should, your best response is “I’ll consider it.” And then do consider it, in light of the reasons above, and especially in light of what is known about that deity from both ancient and modern times. Give yourself plenty of time to think about what it means, whether you really want to do it, and whether you can do it.

Not making a decision is itself a decision. If you don’t hear from Them again, you have your answer. But if you do, then you’ll need to consider it again, only this time more carefully. By the third or fourth time, it should become apparent that They’re not going to go away, and there’s probably something there that would be of benefit to you.

You still can say no (probably). And perhaps you should say no – I’m not going to say yes to a Trickster God no matter how many times They ask. But by the time you’ve had multiple requests, you should have gotten to know Them fairly well, and understand what you’re getting into – you can make an informed decision.

2. You want to strengthen the divine relationship

Why do elected officials take an oath of office? Does anybody think that without it they’d approach their duties any differently – for better or worse? Why do we stand up in front of all our dearly beloved and say all those pretty words in our marriage vows?

The formality and solemnity of oaths amplify our intent. The ceremony forms a container, and the witnesses provide a record. This isn’t a casual comment made in passing. This is our will – this is what we will do.

And everyone knows it.

If you want the Gods to talk to you, begin by talking to Them. If you want Their help, give Them yours. And if you want Them to commit to you, commit yourself to Them.

3. You can’t imagine doing anything else

This is the best reason to make an oath with a God.

You’ve gotten to know Them. You’ve studied Their lore and explored how They’re moving in the contemporary world. They’ve done things for you and you’ve done things for Them. Their values, Their virtues, and Their work are part of your life.

Your practice is centered on Them, and while you could be a good Pagan and polytheist without Them, you don’t want to. At this point an oath is really unnecessary… but They’re asking you for it, and you trust that it’s for a good reason, even if you can’t see exactly what that reason is.

Is this love? Divine love is usually associated with a different religion, but the love of the many Gods is a very real thing.

I’m satisfied with my oaths to Cernunnos, to Danu, and to the Morrigan. And also, I’ve seen some troubling things, and They’re keeping me busy beyond belief. Nothing comes for free – an oath is a contract, not a gift.

But if you can’t imagine doing anything else, make the arrangement a formal one.

There’s an exception to every rule

Maybe you fell in love the first time you laid eyes on your spouse and 20 years later you’re still happily married. That doesn’t happen often, but it does happen. You may be ready for an oath at first contact. If you’re the exception to all this so be it.

You may not have a choice. Oh, you’ve always got a choice, but sometimes the choice of going along with what a God wants is like the choice of whether or not to pay taxes. You can refuse, but the cost of refusing is going to be very high. This is not common, but again, it does happen.

In the end, I’m well aware that all of you are going to do what you want to do. Some of you are going to refuse to make oaths with Gods no matter what. Some of you are going to sign up for service right away, whether you’re ready for it or not.

As always, my goal here is to draw a map and to provide some guideposts to help you along your way. My oaths with deities – I have three – have been positive and beneficial, but they have not been easy.

May the Gods bless you on your journey, whether you make oaths with Them or not.

For further reading

The Love of the Gods (2016)

An Oath to the Morrigan (2017)

Negotiating With the Gods (2017)

Why We Make Oaths (2018)

Why Would Anyone Take an Oath to a God? (2018)

What It Means To Work With The Gods (2019)

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