Patheos

BuddhistCatholicContemplativeEvangelicalGeneral ChristianHinduJewishLatter-day SaintMuslimNew VisionsProgressive Christian

Beliefs

Topics

Columnists

Resource Library

Research Tools

Video

Podcasts

Thought Readers

Faith In Media Tracker

Newsletters

Ad-Free & Subscriber Log-In Subscription Support

Patheos

Ad-Free & Subscriber Log-In Subscription Support

Follow Patheos Patheos on Facebook Patheos on YouTube

Faithful Democrats

Mara Has It Right

Last updated on: May 9, 2013 at 6:10 am   by Faithful Democrats

Mara Has It Right 2013-05-09T06:10:18-06:00 Faithful Democrats

LOGO Patheos Explore the world's faith through different perspectives on religion and spirituality! Patheos has the views of the prevalent religions and spiritualities of the world.

I’m just now reading all the borderline-vicious reaction (see here, here, and here) that the NY Times piece on Mara Vanderslice’s faith-based outreach has generated.  I wish I could have responded sooner, but I’ve been on vacation and away from the Internet for the past week. 

 

Most of the criticism — in the liberal blogs, at least — seems to come in one of four forms: (1) Mara hates the separation of church and state, (2) there is no actual contingent in the Democratic Party that disrespects faith, particularly evangelicals, or tries to remove faith entirely from public discourse, (3) paradoxically to #2, no one should dare desire any mention of faith in the public square, and (4) Mara didn’t really help her candidates as much as the New York Times said she did. 

 

All off base, all unfair to a great strategist. 

 

In turn…

 

(1)  It seems that most folks who read that Mara advised candidates to avoid “the phrase ‘separation of church and state'” took that to mean that Mara advised candidates to propose eradicating the distinction between church and state.  Notwithstanding Mara’s magnanimous clarification here, the context of the article makes perfectly clear that she was talking about language.  Disagreements on mere phrasing, accompanied by little-to-no evidence of disagreements on fundamental principles, do not warrant such vicious attacks, especially on fellow Democrats.  Should we really get that worked up over whether to call it “separation of church and state” or “the free exercise clause”?  Some seem to think so, but I’m not sure how any reasonable person wouldn’t consider that a perfectly legitimate debate when it comes to political messaging.

 

(2 and 3)  Anyone who wants to see contempt for faith within the Democratic Party can read the comment threads on most liberal blog posts where faith is mentioned.  Here are a few examples from the DailyKos post on Mara: 

 

“Oh great, yet MORE religious crap being shoved down our throats in the name of vote-getting.  Jesus Christ, we won the Congress without grovelling to god-botherers [emphasis theirs], so any Democratic campaign who hires this woman, or anybody like her, in some feeble and misguided attempt to sell Democratic policy to idiots who don’t want to get it, can be assured that they most certainly do not have my vote.”

 

“The Republican counterpart to Vanderslice would have this rule for candidates: Don’t talk like a goddamn end-timing lunatic.”

 

“Vanderslice, Obama, et al don’t respect either the intelligence or the beliefs of ‘reason voters.'”

 

“I would like to see a Democrat – any Democrat – Explain to the idiots that ethics can exist independant of organized religion, that at least athiests, agnostics and diests don’t kill and otherwise harm fellow humans and claim some militant god ordered them to.  That the aforementioned groups not only understand right and wrong, good and evil but often lead more moral lives than the loudest (insert “holy book” of choice) thumpers anywhere.  Ah well, only a dream.”

 

And that’s just a few of the comments to a single post.  There are countless other examples throughout the blogosphere and, for that matter, in liberal activist circles.  True, no elected Democrat at the national level would be politically suicidal enough to say such things.  But the existence of ticked-off secularists who want to shield themselves from any mention of religion is not some abstract meme.  It’s a fact of life for people like Mara Vanderslice, Amy Sullivan, and others (including, in far more minor instances, me) who believe Dems should be better at engaging faith communities.

 

(4)  There’s some huffing and puffing that the 10-point advantage among white evangelicals that Mara’s clients enjoyed over Dems nationally is somehow illusory.  One angry blogger looked at the example of Michigan, and here’s his logic, or at least part of it: Mara consulted for Jennifer Granholm and not for Debbie Stabenow; Granholm barely did better among white evangelicals than Stabenow; therefore, Mara made barely any difference.  He failed to consider that Mara’s firm consulted for the Michigan Democratic Party as a whole, making major inroads among conservative pastors in that state.  All Michigan Dems reaped the benefits of that work.  And here’s a nice rebuttal by Thurman Hart within that thread.

 

The bottom line is this.  Mara Vanderslice is one of the finest strategists and warmest human beings I have ever met.  In the interest of full disclosure, I should mention that she’s on the Faithful Democrats board.  But I asked her to join precisely because of my immense respect for her.  Maybe Democrats should start sniping less at one another and more at the (actual) right-wingers who urgently need to be fought. 

 

To be sure, those of us who believe in an authentic and vigorous voice for faith in the public square will defend ourselves when attacked.  But in a target-rich environment, is Mara Vanderslice really in such dire need of a public flogging?

Featured Writers

Previous Post



December 30, 2006

Ding Dong Hussein Is Dead!

Next Post



January 8, 2007 The Sins of Abortion, Homosexuality, and...Monogamy?


Browse Our Archives

Select a Category About Us About Us Action Center Advertise Ask a Theologian Ask a Theologian Blogs Books Campaign Blog Candidate Spotlights Commentary Donate Facebook Featured Writers Fellows Fellows From the Pulpit General Information Hillary Clinton Interfaith Blog Latest Media Center Media Center Media Center MyBlog MyBlog News Newsflash Newsflashes Our Team Reader Blogs RSS Sermon of the Week Shop Social Networking Static Items Support Talking Points Test blogs The Basics Theology Uncategorized YouTube

Select a Month November 2020 October 2020 February 2020 August 2019 July 2018 July 2017 March 2017 February 2017 August 2016 July 2016 June 2016 December 2015 November 2015 October 2015 September 2015 August 2015 July 2015 June 2015 May 2015 April 2015 March 2015 February 2015 January 2015 December 2014 November 2014 October 2014 September 2014 August 2014 July 2014 June 2014 May 2014 April 2014 March 2014 February 2014 January 2014 June 2013 April 2013 March 2013 February 2013 January 2013 December 2012 November 2012 October 2012 September 2012 August 2012 July 2012 June 2012 May 2012 April 2012 March 2012 April 2009 March 2009 February 2009 January 2009 December 2008 November 2008 October 2008 September 2008 August 2008 July 2008 June 2008 May 2008 April 2008 March 2008 February 2008 January 2008 December 2007 November 2007 October 2007 September 2007 August 2007 July 2007 June 2007 May 2007 April 2007 March 2007 February 2007 January 2007 December 2006 November 2006 October 2006 September 2006 August 2006 July 2006 January 2006 August 2004


Follow Us!

Follow Us on Facebook Follow Us on Twitter



TAKE THE

Religious Wisdom Quiz

What does the name "Elijah" mean?

Select your answer to see how you score.

The Lord is my God The Chosen One God Saves God Provides

Related posts from Faithful Democrats

Politics Blue

King, Isaiah, and the Politics of Now

Faithful Democrats

Politics Blue

Stone Soup for the Soul: An Intern’s Lesson...

Faithful Democrats

Politics Blue

Secret Confessions from the GOP Nominee: A Response

Faithful Democrats

Politics Blue

Two American Dreams and One Economic Reality

Faithful Democrats

TRENDING AT PATHEOS Politics and Religion

Gas Prices: What Would Jesus Pay?

Many of my conservative Christian friends have been having a field day...

Jesus Was a Social Deviant: A Brief History...

  Americans like to say that this country was founded on the...

On Max Lucado Preaching At Washington National Cathedral

There has been a bit of controversy over the past week about...

Digital Deception: How We Ended Up Here And...

The American experiment has reached its moment of reckoning, and we seem...

“The evangelical vote is more diverse than you...

Rev. Jim Ball, EFB Co-Chair, is one of the voices featured in...

view all Politics and Religion blogs

Patheos on Facebook Patheos on YouTube

Ad-Free & Subscriber Log-In Subscription Support

Copyright 2008-2026, Patheos. All rights reserved.

Subscription Support Ad-Free & Subscriber Log-In

Follow Patheos Patheos on Facebook Patheos on YouTube