BuddhistCatholicContemplativeEvangelicalGeneral ChristianHinduJewishLatter-day SaintMuslimNew VisionsProgressive Christian
Beliefs
- Buddhist
- Catholic
- Contemplative
- Evangelical
- General Christian
- Hindu
- Jewish
- Latter-day Saint
- More Voices
- Muslim
- New Visions
- Pagan
- Progressive Christian
Topics
- Religion News
- Food and Religion
- Sports and Religion
- Religious Art
- Religious Music and Entertainment
- Religious Events
- History and Religion
- Style and Religion
- Politics and Religion
- Women in Religion
- Recreation Outdoors and Religion
- Business Finance and Religion
- Careers Workplace and Religion
- Education and Religion
- Family Parenting and Religion
- Health Fitness and Religion
- Home and Religion
- Relationships and Religion
- Technology and Religion
- Travel and Religion
Columnists
- Buddhist Columnists
- Business Finance and Religion Columnists
- Careers Workplace and Religion Columnists
- Catholic Columnists
- Contemplative Columnists
- Education and Religion Columnists
- Evangelists Columnists
- Family Parenting and Religion Columnists
- General Christian Columnists
- Health Fitness and Religion Columnists
- Hindu Columnists
- History and Religion Columnists
- Home and Religion Columnists
- Jewish Columnists
- More Voices Columnists
- Latter Day Columnists
- Muslim Columnists
- New Visions Columnists
- Nonreligious Columnists
- Pagan Columnists
- Politics and Religion Columnists
- Progressive Columnists
- Recreation Outdoors and Religion Columnists
- Relationships and Religion Columnists
- Religion News Columnists
- Religious Art Columnists
- Religious Events Columnists
- Religious Music and Entertainment Columnists
- Sports and Religion Columnists
- Style and Religion Columnists
- Technology and Religion Columnists
- Travel and Religion Columnists
- Women in Religion Columnists
Resource Library
- 2026 Calendar
- Library of World Religions
- The 100 Most Holy Places on Earth
- Patheos Answers
- Podcasts
- Videos
- Faith Leaders Database
- Anglican Episcopalian
- Bahai
- Baptist
- Buddhism
- Christianity
- Confucianism
- Eastern Orthodoxy
- Hinduism
- Holiness and Pentecostal
- ISKCON
- Islam
- Judaism
- Lutheran
- Methodist
- The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
- New Age
- Paganism
- Presbytarian and Reformed
- Protestantism
- Religion Behind the Scenes
- Roman Catholic
- Scientology
- Shia Islam
- Sikhism
- Sufism
- Sunni Islam
- Taoism
- Zen
- See all religions
Research Tools
Ad-Free & Subscriber Log-In Subscription Support
Ad-Free & Subscriber Log-In Subscription Support
- Trending:
- Forgiveness
- |
- Marriage
- |
- Consciousness
- |
- Death Penalty
- |
- Election
- |
- Halloween
Emergent Village
- Home
- Progressive Christian
- “Dad, I want to go to church”
“Dad, I want to go to church”
Last updated on: March 28, 2013 at 11:48 am by Rob Davis
“Dad, I want to go to church” 2013-03-28T11:48:31-05:00 Rob Davis
Patheos Explore the world's faith through different perspectives on religion and spirituality! Patheos has the views of the prevalent religions and spiritualities of the world.
This past weekend my wife and I fell into an interesting dilemma. Our 12-year-old son wanted to go with a friend to church. My initial response was, “Sure, no big deal.” I spoke with the friend’s mom on the phone about it, and she came by and picked him up on Sunday morning. He spent the morning and part of the afternoon with them and their church friends.
Shortly after I said okay, I started looking around on the internet to see what kind of church this was. It looked “harmless.” It’s part of the Church of God denomination. One of those churches that seems to be trying its hardest at being “relevant.” I really didn’t do much more digging.
We heard from our son throughout the day about how things were going. He seemed to be having a good time. After we picked him up, he told us about a couple at the church who were really nice to him. He said that the husband asked him what he believed, and he told him he didn’t “believe in God.” To which he responded, “That’s okay.” I guess that’s a much better response than could be expected.
After spending the morning and part of the afternoon thinking about this situation, and talking to my wife about it, the first thing I could say was basically, “Sometimes, church people are very well-intentioned, and they are some of the nicest people you’ll ever know. But, they can also think and believe some really unhealthy things, and end up unintentionally treating people terribly.”
Later in the day, my wife said we should sit both of our kids down (our other son is 13) and have a much longer conversation about this. Family story time.
I hadn’t really thought much about the fact that my kids seemed so much younger when we were caught up in the “church world.” Before I had quit my job as a church “professional,” they had already stopped attending services months prior. My kids would have been about 8 and 9. And, because of the nature of the complementarian culture that had been created, she had really only made a few friends through the church. (If that doesn’t make any sense to you, you probably haven’t been involved in a church like that.) My family hadn’t been nearly as invested in the whole thing as I had been. When I asked my kids to tell me what they knew, they couldn’t remember much.
I tried to sum up my own history of being heavily involved in churches for most of my life. I told them that I had gone from being an assistant youth pastor right after high school, to a “worship leader,” then getting ordained as an elder/pastor, and finally joining the staff of a much larger church. My wife explained that she hadn’t been raised in church, and that really her only exposure to church had been through me.
This was when I realized that what I was trying to explain was that churches can be a very positive thing for the individuals involved, the surrounding neighborhoods and cities, and the world. But, although we would not be who we are today without them, and we would not know many of the people that we do, our experiences with churches have been more negative than positive. We have been harmed more than helped by churches.
Now, of course, there is one way to go from this kind of conversation. Many people have been hurt by churches, and they have decided to shut down that conversation completely. They are simply uninterested. And, that is okay. Because I think that many churches do more harm than good, I think it is better to completely disconnect from that world than to stay in a toxic environment – just like a spouse should leave an abusive one, rather than stick around in hopes that things will change. But, I am not convinced that this is or should be the end of the conversation for everyone.
Which led me to explain that there are basically two kinds of churches: ones that do more good than harm; and vice versa. I don’t think any group of people can be a purely positive force in the world. We unavoidably do damage to each other. But, I think there is a spectrum. The difficulty is that where each group falls on the spectrum is highly subjective. I don’t think anyone can come up with an objective assessment of which churches are which. We each have to decide what is good for us. (I think that more people who have any interest in church at all should study how cults function. It can be pretty revealing to learn how similar these two kinds of groups can be.)
We then told them that if they wanted us, as a family, to try to find the first kind of church, we would totally be on board with it. But, as their parents, we have to help them decide what would be healthy. And, at this point, we’re not convinced that evangelical churches – that, for example, demean women or gay people, or have very specifically defined gender roles, or tell people God hates them and will send people to hell forever – fit our own, subjective, “positive force in the world” definition.
After all of that, though, we asked our younger son why he wanted to go to that church in the first place. His response? A girl. Anything else? Nope, he’s not interested. Oh well. If nothing else, this helped me rethink some things that I hadn’t in awhile. And, I hope we helped them understand where we were coming from. But, for now, we’re not going to try to find a church. And that’s okay.
Previous Post

March 27, 2013
What's Wrong With the "New Reformed" Movement?
Next Post

March 29, 2013 Interview with Mike Stavlund & an Easter Poem
Browse Our Archives
Select a Category Addiction Advent Atheism Authority Bible Cartoons Christian Year Christmas church church planting Civil Rights Community Contemplative Spirituality Culture emerging church Empire Eschatology Evangelism Events Gender Healing Humanism Islam Justice Kingdom Lent Movement Building Multi-Faith Music mysticism New Wave Emergence origins Personal Poetry politics Prayer Preaching Privilege Racism Religious naturalism Resurrection salvation SKEPTIMERGENT Theology Trauma Uncategorized
Select a Month December 2017 November 2017 August 2017 July 2017 June 2017 May 2017 April 2017 March 2017 February 2017 January 2017 December 2016 November 2016 October 2016 September 2016 August 2016 July 2016 June 2016 May 2016 April 2016 March 2016 February 2016 January 2016 December 2015 November 2015 October 2015 September 2015 August 2015 July 2015 June 2015 May 2015 April 2015 March 2015 February 2015 January 2015 December 2014 November 2014 October 2014 September 2014 July 2014 June 2014 May 2014 April 2014 March 2014 February 2014 January 2014 December 2013 November 2013 October 2013 September 2013 August 2013 July 2013 June 2013 May 2013 April 2013 March 2013 February 2013 January 2013 December 2012 November 2012 October 2012 September 2012 August 2012 July 2012 June 2012 May 2012 April 2012 March 2012 February 2012 January 2012 December 2011 November 2011
TAKE THE
Religious Wisdom Quiz
Who saw a plumb line in a vision, symbolizing judgment?
Select your answer to see how you score.
Amos Micah Joel Obadiah
Related posts from Emergent Village
#Charlottesville - What Can I Do?
TRENDING AT PATHEOS Progressive Christian
Why Christians Have a Sacred Duty to Vote:...
The Bible offers strong support for the sacred duty to vote. Here...
What Being a Modern-Day Apostle Means to Me
In my last column, I discussed the ins and outs of modern-day...
Did Ancient China Once Worship the God of...
Across human history, a common thread weaves through the origins of the...
Love Your Neighbor – Including Earth-Kin: Lev. 19,...
God’s command to love your neighbor means acting in an ethical and...
Lead a Church Study of “Jesus and Lao...
Guest writer Jack Thomas (The Irreverent Reverend) reflects on leading his church...
Principles for Understanding the Apostolic Ministry Today
Whenever people discover that my formal ministry title is "apostle," as in...
view all Progressive Christian blogs
Ad-Free & Subscriber Log-In Subscription Support
- About Us
- 2026 Calendar
- Videos
- Podcasts
- Library of World Religions
- Faith In Media Tracker
- Advertise With Us
- Write for Us
- Privacy Policy
- Terms of Service
- Do Not Sell My Data
- Contact Us
- Radiant Digital
- Manage Newsletter Subscriptions
- Unsubscribe From Notifications
- Sitemap
Copyright 2008-2026, Patheos. All rights reserved.
Subscription Support Ad-Free & Subscriber Log-In









