BuddhistCatholicContemplativeEvangelicalGeneral ChristianHinduJewishLatter-day SaintMuslimNew VisionsProgressive Christian
Beliefs
- Buddhist
- Catholic
- Contemplative
- Evangelical
- General Christian
- Hindu
- Jewish
- Latter-day Saint
- More Voices
- Muslim
- New Visions
- Pagan
- Progressive Christian
Topics
- Religion News
- Food and Religion
- Sports and Religion
- Religious Art
- Religious Music and Entertainment
- Religious Events
- History and Religion
- Style and Religion
- Politics and Religion
- Women in Religion
- Recreation Outdoors and Religion
- Business Finance and Religion
- Careers Workplace and Religion
- Education and Religion
- Family Parenting and Religion
- Health Fitness and Religion
- Home and Religion
- Relationships and Religion
- Technology and Religion
- Travel and Religion
Columnists
- Buddhist Columnists
- Business Finance and Religion Columnists
- Careers Workplace and Religion Columnists
- Catholic Columnists
- Contemplative Columnists
- Education and Religion Columnists
- Evangelists Columnists
- Family Parenting and Religion Columnists
- General Christian Columnists
- Health Fitness and Religion Columnists
- Hindu Columnists
- History and Religion Columnists
- Home and Religion Columnists
- Jewish Columnists
- More Voices Columnists
- Latter Day Columnists
- Muslim Columnists
- New Visions Columnists
- Nonreligious Columnists
- Pagan Columnists
- Politics and Religion Columnists
- Progressive Columnists
- Recreation Outdoors and Religion Columnists
- Relationships and Religion Columnists
- Religion News Columnists
- Religious Art Columnists
- Religious Events Columnists
- Religious Music and Entertainment Columnists
- Sports and Religion Columnists
- Style and Religion Columnists
- Technology and Religion Columnists
- Travel and Religion Columnists
- Women in Religion Columnists
Resource Library
- 2026 Calendar
- Library of World Religions
- The 100 Most Holy Places on Earth
- Patheos Answers
- Podcasts
- Videos
- Faith Leaders Database
- Anglican Episcopalian
- Bahai
- Baptist
- Buddhism
- Christianity
- Confucianism
- Eastern Orthodoxy
- Hinduism
- Holiness and Pentecostal
- ISKCON
- Islam
- Judaism
- Lutheran
- Methodist
- The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
- New Age
- Paganism
- Presbytarian and Reformed
- Protestantism
- Religion Behind the Scenes
- Roman Catholic
- Scientology
- Shia Islam
- Sikhism
- Sufism
- Sunni Islam
- Taoism
- Zen
- See all religions
Research Tools
Ad-Free & Subscriber Log-In Subscription Support
Ad-Free & Subscriber Log-In Subscription Support
- Trending:
- Forgiveness
- |
- Marriage
- |
- Consciousness
- |
- Death Penalty
- |
- Election
- |
- Halloween
- Home
- Evangelical
- A Better Soul Over Time (Republic Book X)
A Better Soul Over Time (Republic Book X)
Last updated on: October 13, 2018 at 11:10 pm by John Mark N. Reynolds
A Better Soul Over Time (Republic Book X) 2018-10-13T23:10:21-04:00 John Mark N. Reynolds
Patheos Explore the world's faith through different perspectives on religion and spirituality! Patheos has the views of the prevalent religions and spiritualities of the world.
Education is not getting a credential, but making the soul more like it should be or so Plato suggested at the very start of the Western discussion of the nature of learning. The soul, Plato tells us, as it is, is not so good. Plato argued for the immortality of the soul, accepted what reason demonstrated, but knew being deathless was not good enough. A zombie is undead, but lacks life and so lives in ugliness. Plato, as a forerunner of Jesus, dimly saw that there was hope.
We must change. The Good is out there, creating longing, and so we wish to be more than we are. The wish is mother of desire and the desire pushes us Goodward. This process is not so simple, however. We are not as we should be.
At the end of his masterwork Republic, Plato has Socrates and his brightest student Glaucon discussing the nature of the human soul. Other discussants listen, slowly silenced by the difficulty of the truth that we are not what we wish to be. Glaucon and Socrates continue to look for justice, improvement in their own souls. Education, real education, will repair what life and our choices have done to our souls. Here is what Socrates says:
“Well then, that soul is immortal both the recent argument and the others would compel us to accept. But it must be seen such as it is in truth, not maimed by community with body and other evils, as we now see it. But what it is like when it has become pure must be examined sufficiently by calculation. And one will find it far fairer and discern justice and injustice and everything we have now gone through more distinctly. Now we were telling the truth about it as it looks at present. However that is based only on the condition in which we saw it. Just as those who catch sight of the sea Glaucus would no longer easily see his original nature because some of the old parts of his body have been broken off and the others have been ground down and thoroughly maimed by the waves at the same time as other things have grown on him—shells, seaweed, and rocks—so that he resembles any beast rather than what he was by nature, so, too, we see the soul in such a condition because of countless evils. But, Glaucon, one must look elsewhere.”*
It is no accident that the sea god Glaucus is mentioned. Glaucon is a handsome and brilliant young man, but his soul (like all our souls) is marred. Socrates uses the sound-alike to make a point: we are like Glaucus buffeted by the trash of the world, cut, marred, until our form is changed. Our souls are hardly human in appearance, even if we look fine on the outside. The “countless evils” of the world harm us and so we must look elsewhere.No man would live forever in a world as it is, because the pain would be too great. There is another world and that world is eternal and perfect: the world of ideas. We cannot touch that world, it is buffered from being buffeted by our folly.
If you begin poorly, as I did, then you are thankful for mercy and grace. You hope that over time who you are becomes more like what you should be, less like what you were. Education can do this much: restore good form. The hard things our learning demands, the difficult work of my good teachers like Balentine, Larkin, Shults, Geier, Modrak, Trigg, and Johnson was to take what had been malformed and help me reshape my soul.
This is very much.
I think, as a Christian, that this is not enough. The Good is utterly Good and we are not. We need a deeper change than any education can give us. Somehow we must be born again. Plato sees this truth, but does not see how we can choose more that better. The divine change, the new soul that is a seed of godliness, is not available.
Ah, master Plato, Christmas is coming.
————————-
*Translation by Alan Bloom. Based on a devotional for The College at The Saint Constantine School.
Previous Post

October 11, 2018
Disrupting Disruption (Reading Alan Noble as a Distracted Me 8/8)
Next Post

October 13, 2018 The Great Wave (Timaeus)
Browse Our Archives
Select a Category Apologetics Art Culture Education On Books On Education Philosophy Politics Pop Culture Spiritual Reflections Uncategorized
Select a Month October 2026 September 2026 August 2026 July 2026 July 2025 June 2025 September 2024 July 2024 June 2024 December 2023 June 2023 September 2022 May 2022 April 2022 March 2022 February 2022 July 2021 June 2021 May 2021 April 2021 March 2021 February 2021 January 2021 December 2020 November 2020 October 2020 September 2020 August 2020 July 2020 June 2020 May 2020 April 2020 March 2020 February 2020 January 2020 December 2019 November 2019 October 2019 September 2019 August 2019 July 2019 June 2019 May 2019 April 2019 March 2019 February 2019 January 2019 December 2018 November 2018 October 2018 September 2018 August 2018 July 2018 June 2018 May 2018 April 2018 March 2018 February 2018 January 2018 December 2017 November 2017 October 2017 September 2017 August 2017 July 2017 June 2017 May 2017 April 2017 March 2017 February 2017 January 2017 December 2016 November 2016 October 2016 September 2016 August 2016 July 2016 June 2016 May 2016 April 2016 March 2016 February 2016 January 2016 December 2015 November 2015 October 2015 September 2015 August 2015 July 2015 June 2015 May 2015 April 2015 March 2015 February 2015 January 2015 November 2014 October 2014 September 2014 August 2014 July 2014 June 2014 May 2014 April 2014 March 2014 February 2014 January 2014 December 2013 November 2013 October 2013 September 2013 August 2013 July 2013 June 2013 May 2013 April 2013 March 2013 February 2013 January 2013 December 2012 November 2012 October 2012 September 2012 August 2012 July 2012 June 2012 May 2012
Follow Us!
TAKE THE
Religious Wisdom Quiz
Which book of the Bible is known as the 'Book of Wisdom'?
Select your answer to see how you score.
Ecclesiastes Proverbs Psalms Job
Books by This Author John Mark Reynolds
Related posts from Eidos
Why Classical Education Is a Conversation, Not a...
Does Classical Education Belong Only to the West?
Classical Education Must Teach Us to Make the...
Rooted: Why Classical Education Needs Community
TRENDING AT PATHEOS Evangelical
The REST of Your Life: A Creative Wrestles...
This week I had a conversation with a good friend from church....
How the author of the world's best hymn...
I've been working with John Newton for a while now. This makes...
Long before this Lectio Divina, Psalm 130 - the song - started...
What About the Trees? Another Living Parable
After I finished writing the last article about falling leaves as a...
Why Classical Education Is a Conversation, Not a...
Come and Read: Joy in Classical Education When I was a little...
Cornell University has received a great deal of negative publicity and intense...
view all Evangelical blogs
Ad-Free & Subscriber Log-In Subscription Support
- About Us
- 2026 Calendar
- Videos
- Podcasts
- Library of World Religions
- Faith In Media Tracker
- Advertise With Us
- Write for Us
- Privacy Policy
- Terms of Service
- Do Not Sell My Data
- Contact Us
- Radiant Digital
- Manage Newsletter Subscriptions
- Unsubscribe From Notifications
- Sitemap
Copyright 2008-2026, Patheos. All rights reserved.
Subscription Support Ad-Free & Subscriber Log-In











