{"id":6267,"date":"2024-07-08T00:54:33","date_gmt":"2024-07-08T08:54:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/determinetruth\/?p=6267"},"modified":"2024-07-07T08:33:00","modified_gmt":"2024-07-07T16:33:00","slug":"isr-gaza-all-is-not-quiet-on-the-western-front-its-worse","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/determinetruth\/2024\/07\/isr-gaza-all-is-not-quiet-on-the-western-front-its-worse\/","title":{"rendered":"Isr-Gaza: All is not quiet on the western front; it’s worse"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<\/head>

Palestinian \u201cdetainees\u201d: report torture while in Israeli detention centers.
Courtesy Middle East Eye<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p>

Time seems to have lulled us into a state of apathy or complacency. Some of us have seen the horrors of what is taking place in Gaza, and we have had to turn away. Others have tuned it out altogether.<\/span><\/p>\n

But we cannot do so. People are dying. I don\u2019t care for a minute if you are pro-Israel or pro-Palestinian. War is not good for anyone. <\/span><\/p>\n

Except for those in power! <\/span><\/p>\n

NB: Beginning this week (July 11, 2024, 5:00 PST\/8:00 EST<\/a>), I will be hosting a series of weekly livestreams that will endeavor to provide a framework for understanding the nature of the kingdom of God and the kingdoms of the world. (Note: these livestreams will live on the Determinetruth YouTube page<\/a><\/em>: after July 11, 2024, you can search for the playlist \u201cGospel and the Kingdom\u201d).<\/em> <\/span><\/p>\n

This conversation is important because it alerts us to the dangers that lurk behind the efforts of empires. <\/span><\/p>\n

One of those dangers is war. Empire (and I use the word empire in its broadest sense) . . . <\/span><\/p>\n

NB: I asked Monica [AI for Chrome] to define \u201cempire\u201d broadly, and I like its definition: \u201cBroadly speaking, the term \u201cempire\u201d refers to a large and powerful political, economic, and\/or cultural entity that exercises control or dominance over a wide area or multiple territories and populations.\u201d<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n

Empires like war. They benefit from them. <\/span><\/p>\n

Nations like war. They use war to expand their power. <\/span><\/p>\n

Corporations like war. They profit from them, especially those that produce the weaponry used to wage such wars. <\/span><\/p>\n

We might immediately think that we are on to the wares of such things and that we would never allow them to flourish. But, if we feel this way, we are na\u00efve to ways of empire. <\/span><\/p>\n

Propaganda <\/span><\/strong><\/h2>\n NB: I have discussed propaganda in <\/span>several recent posts<\/span><\/a>)<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n One of the dangers of propaganda is that it is easily believable. This is even more so when we are its beneficiaries. This is a significant danger for much of Western Christianity. (I will address this and related issues in the upcoming livestream series mentioned above)<\/span><\/p>\n I have been arguing from the beginning that we need to find a diplomatic solution in Israel-Palestine that creates a just peace for the sake of everyone. The notion that Israelis and Palestinians cannot live together is part of the political propaganda (though the events of the last year have certainly presented this view more legitimacy) of those in power. <\/span><\/p>\n An example of the power of propaganda about the current war on Gaza is the use of \u201chostages\u201d and \u201cprisoners.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n Hostages and \u201cprisoners\u201d or \u201cdetainees\u201d\u00a0<\/span><\/strong><\/h2>\n***** ** One of the issues that drives support for Israel\u2019s assault on Gaza is the damnable attack by Hamas on Oct 7, 2023. During Hamas\u2019 attack, 1189 Israelis were killed, and 243 Israeli civilians were taken as hostages back to Gaza.<\/span><\/p>\n ** Israel\u2019s response to the incursion of Oct 7 is thereby justified because Israel is simply acting in self-defense, and they are attempting to free the hostages. <\/span><\/p>\n ** What is often left out of this discourse is the fact that Hamas claimed several motives for their attack. Chief among them was the fact that Israel has \u201cdetained\u201d over 5000 Palestinians in Israeli prisons, which Hamas wants to see freed. Consequently, Hamas\u2019 taking of hostages was intended to provide them leverage or a bargaining chip concerning the detainees.<\/span><\/p>\n ** The media, of course, if they have addressed this at all, has portrayed such a swap in terms of \u201chostages\u201d for \u201cprisoners.\u201d The language is critical. <\/span><\/p>\n ** \u201cHostages\u201d suggests (and correctly so) innocent civilians. <\/span><\/p>\n ** \u201cPrisoners\u201d suggests criminals. And since they are Palestinian prisoners, it likely conveys terrorists. <\/span><\/p>\n ** The problem is that most of the 5000+ Palestinian detainees that Hamas wants to be released have not been charged with any crime at all, let alone convicted of one. <\/span><\/p>\n ** *****Israel justifies such detentions on the basis that those detained are linked, or possibly linked, with terrorists or terrorist activities. Thus, they \u201cdetain\u201d Palestinians for up to 6 months\u2014which is often extended and sometimes indefinitely\u2014while they investigate whether or not the detainee is safe to be released. <\/span><\/p>\n The increase of Palestinian \u201cdetainees\u201d<\/span><\/strong><\/h2>\n******* ** I have heard many times that if Hamas would stop firing rockets and release the hostages, this conflict would end. <\/span><\/p>\n ** *******Now, there are many reasons to suppose that this is not true\u2014including the fact that Israel\u2019s assault on Gaza has resulted in the complete destruction of Gaza to the extent that the region is unlivable. This suggests that Israel is not merely trying to eliminate Hamas and free the hostages; they are trying to destroy Gaza and remove the Palestinians from the region. <\/span><\/p>\n The rhetoric of Israel\u2019s right-wing cabinet members affirms that this is indeed Israel\u2019s goal. <\/span>Itamar Ben G\u2019vir, who is Israel\u2019s Minister of National Security, has even called for the Palestinian \u201cdetainees\u201d to be executed (see <\/span>Al Jazeerah<\/span><\/a> video at the 2:35 mark).<\/span><\/p>\n Furthermore, if Hamas were to release the hostages, it would fail to account for why they took the hostages in the first place, namely, as a bargaining chip. This is, of course, horrific. But the point is that if Hamas were to release the hostages, Israel has no compulsion to release any of the Palestinian detainees. <\/span><\/p>\n There is another problem. <\/span><\/p>\n Israel has not only failed to acknowledge that it is wrongfully detaining Palestinians (some of the detainees are noted peace activists; others include people like the Director of Al Shifa Hospital), but they have nearly doubled the number of Palestinian detainees since Oct 7. There are now 9000+ Palestinians in Israeli prisons and detention centers; 600+ are children.<\/span><\/p>\n If Israel truly wants peace with the Palestinians, then why have they increased the number of detainees? <\/span><\/p>\n What is more, is the fact that Israeli guards are reportedly \u201cpunishing\u201d many of the Palestinian detainees as an act of revenge for Hamas\u2019 attack of Oct 7. These are not my words. These are the words <\/span>of Israeli guards<\/span><\/strong> (<\/span>whistleblowers<\/span><\/a>) who have gone public with what is happening in these detention centers.<\/span><\/p>\n NB: On Friday, July 12, at 10:00 am PST \/ 1:00 pm EST, <\/span>the Christian Forum on Israel-Palestine will interview recently released Palestinian peace activist Munther Amira<\/span><\/a>, who will describe his experience in an Israeli detention center.\u00a0<\/span><\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n Palestinian Peace Activist Munther Amira was recently \u201cdetained\u201d in an Israeli detention center<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n Recently, a Palestinian lawyer and an Arab citizen of Israel, Khaled Mahajneh, was permitted access to one of the Israeli detention centers where he was allowed to interview Muhammed Arab, a Palestinian journalist for <\/span>Al Araby TV<\/span><\/em>. You can read about his interview in <\/span>972+ magazine<\/span><\/a>. Here are some key excerpts:<\/span><\/p>\n \u201cThe journalist had not been given new clothes for nearly two months, and was only allowed to change his pants for the first time that day because of the lawyer\u2019s visit.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n \u201cDetainees are continually blindfolded and tied up with their hands behind their backs, forced to sleep hunched over on the floor without any bedding. Their iron handcuffs are removed only during a weekly, minute-long shower. \u201cBut the prisoners began refusing to shower because they don\u2019t have watches, and going beyond the allotted minute exposes prisoners to severe punishments, including hours outside in the heat or rain,\u201d Mahajneh said. <\/em><\/p>\n \u201cAll detainees, Mahajneh noted, face deteriorating health conditions due to the poor quality of the daily prison diet: a small amount of labaneh and a piece of cucumber or tomato. They also suffer from severe constipation, and for every 100 prisoners, only one roll of toilet paper is provided per day.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n I say all of this not to make Israel the bad guy. War is the bad guy. Those in power are the bad guys. And this includes those who are waging this war, whether they be Hamas, the leadership in Israel and the US (not to mention the European Union) who are waging this war.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n We must speak up. People are dying: 38,500+ in Gaza; 5,000 IDF soldiers.<\/p>\n \u00a0<\/p>\n Our goal is to keep these posts free of charge. I do not intend ever to hide them behind a paywall. I can only do this if those of you who have been blessed by them and can afford to give ($5, $10, $25, or more\/month) do so. 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