{"id":381,"date":"2024-07-08T11:32:45","date_gmt":"2024-07-08T18:32:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/crossandculture\/?p=381"},"modified":"2024-07-08T12:21:05","modified_gmt":"2024-07-08T19:21:05","slug":"interview-with-artist-makoto-fujimura-on-faith-and-art","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/crossandculture\/2024\/07\/interview-with-artist-makoto-fujimura-on-faith-and-art\/","title":{"rendered":"Interview With Artist Makoto Fujimura On Faith and Art"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<\/head>

"Photo<\/h3>\n Art and faith have been two of the most powerful forces throughout history. Both have the power to inspire, instruct, teach, transform, and ultimately bring us closer to the transcendent. They offer us cohesive narratives and give definition to the reality we inhabit. This being the case, one might think they would blend seamlessly within culture. There have been times throughout history when the church and the arts have worked in tandem to produce some of the most beautiful works the world has ever seen. But unfortunately, all too often in the modern world, the two movements have seemed to be at odds.<\/div>\n <\/p>\n Makoto Fujimura is a world-renowned artist, the author of the book\u00a0Art\u00a0+ Faith<\/i><\/a>, and a thought leader on the intersection\u00a0of creativity\u00a0and religion. I had the privilege\u00a0of interviewing him and garnering\u00a0his insight into the necessity\u00a0and likeness\u00a0of these two monumentally\u00a0important movements.<\/div>\n1. You have spent many years working publicly in both the artistic and faith communities. What is it that drew you to each of these worlds and what do you love about them?<\/h3>\n Many years ago, my mentor the late Tim Keller taught me as a Christian to love the city: \u201cSeek the welfare of the city where I have sent you into exile, and pray to the Lord on its behalf, for in its welfare you will find your welfare.\u201d (Jeremiah 29<\/a>) That means we are to love the cities\u2019 arts and faithful communities, and to pray for them to find this welfare.<\/p>\n 2. Both art and faith are undeniably powerful forces in both wide culture and the hearts and minds of individuals. But often it can seem they are not just entirely separate pursuits but actually at odds with each other. But you have talked in your books about how your faith influences your art and your art influences your faith. What do faith and art have to do with each other?<\/h3>\n It has been said that the arts and religion are incompatible since the arts transgress against the past and religion protects the past. But through a \u201cTheology of Making\u201d (see my book Art+Faith<\/a>: A Theology of Making, Yale University Press 2021) I argue that our lives are an artwork of God (Ephesians 2:8-10<\/a>), that God is the only true Artist, and without the framework of making we cannot fully understand the arts or comprehend the gospel. Vincent Van Gogh said there is \u201cnothing more truly artistic than to love people.\u201d To make art is to love. To love is to cultivate faith. To have faith is to create into the New.<\/p>\n 3. As you survey the landscape of faith-influenced-art being created and released today, what is your opinion on its condition and state? Does it excite you? Do you have frustrations?<\/h3>\n All art must be, in some way, \u201cfaith-influenced\u201d. Even if you try to make art in denial of some form of faith, your implicit love for the materials, instrument, or the form of art makes the artist exhibit some sort of faith. Now, I understand that your question is about the role of Christian faith in particular, but then I would ask, \u201cHow do we know that a person (even a \u201cChristian\u201d) possesses true faith?\u201d This discernment has proven hard to judge, especially in recent times. I instead ask the reverse question: \u201cWhat \u2018faith\u2019 do you find in art that you resonate with?\u201d And, \u201cHow does our Christian faith help to exegete it for the greater edification of all?\u201d I am not interested in \u201cChristian art\u201d as I seek only excellence and authenticity in ALL expressions, and not merely a category of marketing. The use of the word \u201cChristian\u201d as an adjective does not excite me. Only \u201cChristian\u201d as a noun \u2013 as a follower of Christ making art \u2013 reflects genuine faith that leads to genuine art. Genuine art made from genuine faith will rise above the rancor and debasement of our climate of culture wars, and will eventually find an enduring audience. This path is what I lay out in my Culture Care journey (see Culture Care<\/a>: Reconnecting with Beauty for our Common Life, IVP 2017, and iamculturecare.com<\/a>)<\/p>\n 4. Many artists of faith feel a bit lost and homeless in their pursuits. If you had a word of advice to offer artists of faith, what would that be?<\/h3>\n*** ** Take your faith seriously. Make art as if your life and faith depended upon it. Create in ***\nLove.<\/p>\n 5. What is a piece of faith-influenced-art that has inspired you?<\/h3>\n*** ** Again, I do not distinguish between art that is \u201cfaith-influenced\u201d or not. But I am grateful for William Blake, Fra Angelico, Mark Rothko, Paul Cezanne, Tohaku Hasegawa and Sen no Riky\u016b for guiding my journey into the light.<\/p>\n ** ***\u00a0<\/p>\n To learn more about Makoto, visit his website here<\/a><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":" Art and faith have been two of the most powerful forces throughout history. Both have the power to inspire, instruct, teach, transform, and ultimately bring us closer to the transcendent. They offer us cohesive narratives and give definition to the reality we inhabit. 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