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2023-06-12T07:35:57-04:00

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Life Long/ Long Life

Last updated on: June 12, 2023 at 7:35 am   By Ben Witherington

LIFE LONG/ LONG LIFE (for family and friends)   Sadness sinks in, With the passing of the past Great ones Their voices are not silenced Since they are on record and records   But there is no fresh work No new thing to bring the Spring Of the heart The elation of creation The thrill of live and embodied The erection of connection Between artist and audience Between musician and the music Between time and eternity.   Sometimes the sounds... Read more

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2023-06-11T08:05:21-04:00

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Clifton Black’s Mark’s Gospel– The Dialogue Part Eight

Last updated on: June 11, 2023 at 8:05 am   By Ben Witherington

Q.  Finally, knowing what we know about the importance of the apostolic tradition, and the later attempt to link so many early Christian Gospels to the Twelve or apostles, even late in the second century (Gospel of Peter, etc.) it seems unlikely to me that anyone would invent the notion of Mark being an author of a Gospel never mind the first Gospel. He was neither one of the Twelve nor an apostle, and if he is the John Mark... Read more

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Mark and Peter?

2023-06-11T07:55:11-04:00

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Clifton Black’s Mark’s Gospel– The Dialogue Part Seven

Last updated on: June 11, 2023 at 7:55 am   By Ben Witherington

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Clifton Black’s Mark’s Gospel– The Dialogue Part Six

Last updated on: June 11, 2023 at 7:52 am   By Ben Witherington

Q.  I was a bit surprised that there was not more emphasis on the Son of Man material in Mark, especially since it seems so clearly grounded in Dan. 7.13-14, and all the more so since the Gospel has an apocalyptic tone, and a direct citation of that text at the trial in Mk. 14. What I mean by this is the figure ‘one like a son of man’ is both a human and also yet a divine figure who... Read more

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The suffering Son of Man

2023-06-11T07:48:40-04:00

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Clifton Black’s Mark’s Gospel– The Dialogue Part Five

Last updated on: June 11, 2023 at 7:48 am   By Ben Witherington

Q.   While there are not a lot of major differences I have with your reading of Mark, I am quite unconvinced with the idea that the original ending is found in 16.8, despite the later attempts to add a longer or shorter conclusion. I say this for a lot of reasons: 1). ‘ephobounto gar’ is not a proper ending to anything— a Greek sentence, a paragraph, much less a biography. This doesn’t work at the grammar or syntax level;  2)... Read more

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When an ending does not end

2023-07-04T17:09:26-04:00

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Indiana and the Dial of Destiny

Last updated on: July 4, 2023 at 5:09 pm   By Ben Witherington

  (Spoiler Alert: Don’t read this if you’ve not seen the movie yet)   Like various other long running movie series (like Star Wars or James Bond), it has taken a long long time to get to the final episode. Was it worth it?  Well yes… and no.  The movie begins near the end of WWII, and once again the bad guys in this movie are Nazis, a safe choice in this day and age since they are overwhelmingly, and... Read more

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Archimedes would say eureka?

2023-06-11T08:22:44-04:00

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James Taylor— The 4th of July

Last updated on: June 11, 2023 at 8:22 am   By Ben Witherington

And from my friends in the Lexington Lab Band by way of another southern boy, Bruce Hornsby,  how our country should never be— racist! Read more

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The Gospel according to JT

2023-06-11T07:42:58-04:00

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Clifton Black’s Mark’s Gospel– The Dialogue Part Four

Last updated on: June 11, 2023 at 7:42 am   By Ben Witherington

Q.  I wondered about chiasms, which seem to me a visual device, but Mark’s Gospel in the main was not read by early Christians, it was heard by most of them, and it was intended to be an oral and rhetorical text, not a visual one.   The reader in Mk. 13 is surely the lector who read it out to the congregation, not the audience, as Rev. 1.1-4 makes clear— noticing the distinction between the one who reads it out... Read more

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2023-06-11T07:39:15-04:00

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Clifton Black’s Mark’s Gospel– The Dialogue Part Three

Last updated on: June 11, 2023 at 7:39 am   By Ben Witherington

Q.  What do you mean by saying this Gospel has an apocalyptic character or flavor, especially in certain revelatory scenes like the one at the baptism or the Transfiguration? Is this somehow related to Mark’s famous ‘messianic secret’ motif?   CCB: “Apocalypticism” is among the most misunderstood phenomena in biblical interpretation. Partly that’s because in everyday English the term often carries very narrow, constrictive connotations: “catastrophic doom” or “the world’s complete annihilation.” Literally, an apocalypse is a revelation: a “pulling... Read more

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Apocalypse back then

2023-06-11T07:34:31-04:00

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Clifton Black’s Mark’s Gospel– The Dialogue Part Two

Last updated on: June 11, 2023 at 7:34 am   By Ben Witherington

Q.   Much has been made of late about Mark being an ancient biography, especially by Burridge but also by Bond. What are the ways this helps us understand the content of this Gospel, but also what are the limitations of this observation?   CCB:  In Hellenistic Judaism and Greco-Roman antiquity, biographies (bioi) were selective and stylized, sometimes idealized, presentations of historical subjects that intended to edify their audiences. Ancient biographies were not literary purebreds but mongrels, absorptive of other genres.... Read more

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