BuddhistCatholicContemplativeEvangelicalGeneral ChristianHinduJewishLatter-day SaintMuslimNew VisionsProgressive Christian
Beliefs
- Buddhist
- Catholic
- Contemplative
- Evangelical
- General Christian
- Hindu
- Jewish
- Latter-day Saint
- More Voices
- Muslim
- New Visions
- Pagan
- Progressive Christian
Topics
- Religion News
- Food and Religion
- Sports and Religion
- Religious Art
- Religious Music and Entertainment
- Religious Events
- History and Religion
- Style and Religion
- Politics and Religion
- Women in Religion
- Recreation Outdoors and Religion
- Business Finance and Religion
- Careers Workplace and Religion
- Education and Religion
- Family Parenting and Religion
- Health Fitness and Religion
- Home and Religion
- Relationships and Religion
- Technology and Religion
- Travel and Religion
Columnists
- Buddhist Columnists
- Business Finance and Religion Columnists
- Careers Workplace and Religion Columnists
- Catholic Columnists
- Contemplative Columnists
- Education and Religion Columnists
- Evangelists Columnists
- Family Parenting and Religion Columnists
- General Christian Columnists
- Health Fitness and Religion Columnists
- Hindu Columnists
- History and Religion Columnists
- Home and Religion Columnists
- Jewish Columnists
- More Voices Columnists
- Latter Day Columnists
- Muslim Columnists
- New Visions Columnists
- Nonreligious Columnists
- Pagan Columnists
- Politics and Religion Columnists
- Progressive Columnists
- Recreation Outdoors and Religion Columnists
- Relationships and Religion Columnists
- Religion News Columnists
- Religious Art Columnists
- Religious Events Columnists
- Religious Music and Entertainment Columnists
- Sports and Religion Columnists
- Style and Religion Columnists
- Technology and Religion Columnists
- Travel and Religion Columnists
- Women in Religion Columnists
Resource Library
- 2026 Calendar
- Library of World Religions
- The 100 Most Holy Places on Earth
- Patheos Answers
- Podcasts
- Videos
- Faith Leaders Database
- Anglican Episcopalian
- Bahai
- Baptist
- Buddhism
- Christianity
- Confucianism
- Eastern Orthodoxy
- Hinduism
- Holiness and Pentecostal
- ISKCON
- Islam
- Judaism
- Lutheran
- Methodist
- The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
- New Age
- Paganism
- Presbytarian and Reformed
- Protestantism
- Religion Behind the Scenes
- Roman Catholic
- Scientology
- Shia Islam
- Sikhism
- Sufism
- Sunni Islam
- Taoism
- Zen
- See all religions
Research Tools
Ad-Free & Subscriber Log-In Subscription Support
Ad-Free & Subscriber Log-In Subscription Support
- Trending:
- Forgiveness
- |
- Marriage
- |
- Consciousness
- |
- Death Penalty
- |
- Election
- |
- Halloween
- Home
- Pagan
- Seekers and Guides: The Downward Spiral – Depression and Suicide in Paganism (Part 4)
Seekers and Guides: The Downward Spiral – Depression and Suicide in Paganism (Part 4)
Last updated on: October 27, 2014 at 2:30 pm by Sable Aradia
Seekers and Guides: The Downward Spiral – Depression and Suicide in Paganism (Part 4) 2014-10-27T14:30:41+00:00 Sable Aradia
Patheos Explore the world's faith through different perspectives on religion and spirituality! Patheos has the views of the prevalent religions and spiritualities of the world.
This will be my last installment in my series on suicide and depression in Paganism. Perhaps appropriately, this will also be the last installment of “Seekers and Guides.” I am pleased to announce that I have been invited by the Patheos folks to open my own blog! It’s called Between the Shadows: the Craft of a Liminal Witch, and I’ll be writing on existing in the “between” spaces of things and on the Craft and Paganism in general. I would really like to thank all of you for your support (and your vocal arguments too!) during my time as part of the great team that makes up the Agora blog; without you, this would not have been possible. I have enjoyed writing “Seekers and Guides” very much, and I will likely continue writing about the things that I wrote about here in my new blog. I hope that if you’ve enjoyed my work (or hated it; spirited debate is good too) you’ll come on over to the new blog page so that we may continue our dialogue!
Now on with the subject of today’s column: suicide prevention and healing for survivors.
Recognizing the Warning Signs
Often – usually – a suicide attempt comes as an enormous shock to friends and loved ones. But often, the person who has attempted to take his or her own life has been crying out for help for some time. However, the signals are usually unclear. Some things to look out for, in addition to all the symptoms of depression, include:
- Self-defeating talk about nothing being worth it and things looking hopeless, especially if it is repeated
- Distancing oneself from family and friends
- Stopping long-term or lifesaving medications
- Giving away a bunch of personal belongings, especially savings, sentimentally valued items, or pets; also, a sudden interest in setting out terms for a will or for a funeral (which might just represent a confrontation with mortality, but it’s worth noting)
- Actively avoiding social interaction
- Asking questions about methods of death or suicide and their results
- A sudden fascination with death
- Lifechanging stress factors sometimes tip a depressed person over the edge. Any intense emotional event can be a lifechanging stressor. Examples include: moving, getting married, getting divorced or ending a long-term relationship, starting school, starting a new school, starting a new job, failing in school, losing a job or getting laid off, graduating, financial disaster, public humiliation, a new disability, quitting an addiction, confronting a deep emotional trauma or one’s own mortality, being diagnosed with a chronic or terminal illness, the death of a child or spouse, killing someone, or being charged with a crime.
Compassion: Nature’s Healing Balm for the Soul
When people are driven to suicide it is most often due to feelings of hopelessness or loneliness. Time and again we hear stories of how a moment of compassion can save lives. It really can. If you see someone struggling, reach out to help. If you see someone being bullied or abused, step in. A kind word, an offer of a sandwich when someone is hungry, a shoulder to cry on, a warm place to sleep, a coat in a storm; these things can all make the difference between life and death.
It’s a hard thing. We suffer from compassion fatigue in our society, probably because we hear so much about suffering that we find it hard to allow ourselves to care about anyone outside of our little sphere. And we are frightened of the unknown, and the truth is that a hungry homeless person just might rob you. But it is never wrong to care or to feel.
But, There’s a Limit
Some people just seem to feed on all the attention and use us as psychic garbage dumps. After a point, you are not helping; you are enabling a negative behavior. You can’t allow yourself to be sucked into their black hole and you must save yourself. Because I am subject to depression myself, I can only handle so much negativity before I must distance myself.
Remember me talking about my friend in the first article; the one who tried to commit suicide on New Year’s Eve next door to me? I felt horrible. This friend had been my saving grace; he served the place of a therapist in my anorexia and my depression; he listened to me pour out and sort out my feelings, and he saved my life. How could I have failed him so badly?
I meditated and sought communion with the Goddess. And after several hours, just before dawn, the message I got was this: if you see someone drowning, you can throw out a life preserver. You can hold their hand; you can offer to be there. But if they won’t grab it, then there’s nothing you can do. And to think that you have that much control over whether or not someone lives or dies is hubris. It’s not up to you; each one of us must exercise our own free will, and no one else can do it for us.
Intervention
How do you know when to intervene? How do you know when you should butt out?
You know what I think? If you really think someone might be in danger of taking their own life, it’s time to intervene. The person in question might be angry with you; but so what? They’ll be alive, right?
So how do you help?
Contact a professional or a semi-professional. Alert school counselors, church leaders, health care professionals, addictions counselors, community health nurses or doctors. If you don’t know what else to do, call the suicide hotline and ask them! Urge the one you’re concerned about to seek help for him or herself as well.
Be aware that most coven leaders or grove organizers are not trained as counsellors so they may not have solutions for you. Ask someone with some training. Try your local Unitarian church if you don’t know where else to go; they usually have at least a few token Pagans in their congregations and they will be friendly at least.
If you are a Pagan leader and you want training in counselling, there’s a great book out there called On Becoming a Counsellor by . Also, the Cherry Hill Seminary has courses you can take.
Dealing with the Aftermath
No matter how much people care, no matter how much we try, sometimes people we care about will slip through our fingers. They will be taken from us. We will be faced with a whole host of emotions about it, and then we must not neglect our own self-care. Here are some of the issues that come up and suggestions on what you can do about them.
Survivor Guilt
Survivor guilt is a special form of post-traumatic stress disorder that comes from having survived something when someone else we care about has not. It is a very common affliction for the survivors of suicide victims. Many of us struggled with that when Jodi took her own life. Why her when she was the kindest, nicest person among us? Why were we, the unworthy, still alive when she was dead? What had we done, or not done, to fail her?
The truth is, we had done nothing to fail her, and nothing we had done could have saved her. Jodi was in a relationship with a man who loved her. She was going to school. She had lots of friends. She just lost her battle with depression. It wasn’t our fault; and if you have survived someone who was a suicide victim in your life, it’s not your fault either. No matter what you said, or didn’t say; no matter whether you loved someone with all your heart and stayed with them through everything, or dumped them because you couldn’t handle it anymore; no matter whether or not you called or didn’t call or even said something terribly hurtful; it’s not your fault. They made the choice to take their own life; you had no power over that.
If you think you might be suffering from survivor guilt, that’s also a risk factor, so please get professional therapy for yourself too.
Anger
It’s not talked about much, but it is not uncommon for the survivors of a suicide victim (or would-be suicide victim) to be very angry about what has happened. And the truth is, the one who has killed him or herself (or tried to) has done a very hurtful thing. It is an act that causes terrible damage and trauma to the ones you love and leave behind.
How do you deal with that anger while still trying to provide emotional support for the one you love when they need you? Most of us don’t, and so years later we need therapy for our damaged emotions and co-dependent behaviors.
Get some therapy for yourself while your loved one is getting therapy. It is normal to be angry.
I blamed myself when my mother attempted suicide. I spent much of my childhood trying so hard to be the person she wanted me to be, trying not to upset her that I lost myself completely. Then I was suicidal. Later on, I had a great deal of anger towards her for putting me in that position at such a young age. Her bipolar diagnosis allowed me to put it in perspective. I came to think of it as what it was; an illness. She was sick, and no more in control of her actions than a person delirious with fever. This allowed me to forgive her and to heal the rifts between us as well as to start healing myself. Granted, it’s not perfect, and it’s not easy; but it’s much better. And it gets better all the time.
Grief
Grieving takes time and is different for all of us. Understanding the five stages of grief may help you to come to terms with what has happened (and even attempted suicide necessitates dealing with horror and grief). Give yourself time to heal and don’t allow others to tell you what you should and should not being doing, or how you should feel from moment to moment. For me, my best tactic for grief is to help others, try to get on with my life, but be given space to break down and cry a while when the inevitable reminders come. Doing this helps me to move on and gives me reason to keep going. Others may need to shut everyone away for a while. Let all grieve in their own ways.
Resolution
Grief eases when we come to a place of resolution. For some of us that can be difficult, especially when a death is traumatic and sudden, as suicides are. Maybe there are things we never had a chance to say. Maybe we just need to say we’re sorry and we need to feel we’ve been heard.
Fortunately, we are Pagans. The Veil is thin this time of year. Create a ritual in which you bring to the altar a picture or other memento of the person you loved, and say everything you wished to say; even your anger and your grief. Then thank the spirit of the departed for joining you and move on. Bury or burn the memento, toss it into a lake or a river, or keep it in a place of honor, according to your need and preference. Hopefully you will find the healing you need.
A Final Message of Hope
There is very little in life that cannot be changed. Indeed, change is the only constant. That means that every day begins with the possibility of transformation.
If life seems unbearable for you right now, just remember that tomorrow might be better. But if you don’t stick around to find out, you’ll never know.
Ending your life might mean that the pain will stop, yes. But so will any possibility of joy. So hang in there. Cookies really are tasty, sex can be a lot of fun, sunlight is warm and rainbows really are beautiful. And they really are out there, even if you live in the Pacific Northwest (trust me, I live in BC!)
She changes everything She touches, and everything She touches changes. Or as the Persians once said; this, too, shall pass.
I decided I wanted to stick around and find out what happens tomorrow. I hope you do too.
Thanks for listening. Blessed be.
Next column: She changes everything She touches, and everything She touches changes.
Join me over at “Between the Shadows” http://www.patheos.com/blogs/betweentheshadows/.
Merry meet, and merry part, and merry meet again!
Previous Post

October 24, 2014
Queer of Swords: Halloween – The Secular Festival of Becoming
Next Post

October 28, 2014 Ancestor Remembrance Project: Blood and Spirit
Browse Our Archives
Select a Category A Lakeside Hearth Adventures in Wortcunning Alone In Her Presence Arts, Crafts & Cooking Birthing Hereditary Witchcraft Book of Blackbirds Book Reviews Born-Again Witch Cauldron, Sword, Spear, & Stone Cermony and Liturgy Columns Community Dandelion Seeds Dear Jasmine Druid Thoughts Editor's Picks Everyday Pagan Family & Household Practice Family Traditions Full Frontal Magic Gateway Goddess Guest Articles Happily Heathen Health and Wellness Hearth of Hellenism Heathen Woman Hills of the Horizon History Holidays Horse Goddesses Interfaith Interviews Irish-American Witchcraft Jewish Witch Lamp & Labyrinth Letters from Midgard Literature, Media, Film, Music Loop of Brighid Love, Sex & Relationships Magic or Magick Making Light Naturalistic Traditions Nature News Outside The Circle Pantheisticon Politics Prayers, Poems, Blessings & Stories Queer Femme Mystic Queer of Swords Recipes Ritual and Practice Science and Research Seekers and Guides Seeking the Grail Socially Responsible Magic Spear of Athena Star Made Witch Syncretic Electric Technology The Blooming Staff The Busy Witch The Cartomancer The Crow's Nest The Dance of Pagan Recovery The Hearth of Hellenism The Lady's Quill The Other Side of the Hedge The Path of She The Rantin' Raven The Witches Next Door The Zen Pagan Theology, Ethics, Philosophy Tree City Witch Urban Earthwitch Wayfaring Woman Witch on Fire Wyrd Words
Select a Month January 2026 March 2025 December 2024 June 2024 April 2024 March 2024 January 2024 December 2023 November 2023 October 2023 August 2023 July 2023 May 2023 April 2023 March 2023 February 2023 January 2023 December 2022 November 2022 October 2022 September 2022 August 2022 July 2022 June 2022 May 2022 March 2022 February 2022 January 2022 December 2021 November 2021 October 2021 September 2021 August 2021 July 2021 June 2021 May 2021 April 2021 March 2021 February 2021 January 2021 December 2020 November 2020 October 2020 September 2020 August 2020 July 2020 June 2020 May 2020 April 2020 March 2020 February 2020 January 2020 December 2019 November 2019 October 2019 September 2019 August 2019 July 2019 June 2019 May 2019 April 2019 March 2019 February 2019 January 2019 December 2018 November 2018 October 2018 September 2018 August 2018 July 2018 June 2018 May 2018 April 2018 March 2018 February 2018 January 2018 December 2017 November 2017 October 2017 September 2017 August 2017 July 2017 June 2017 May 2017 April 2017 March 2017 February 2017 January 2017 December 2016 November 2016 October 2016 September 2016 August 2016 July 2016 June 2016 May 2016 April 2016 March 2016 February 2016 January 2016 December 2015 November 2015 October 2015 September 2015 August 2015 July 2015 June 2015 May 2015 April 2015 March 2015 February 2015 January 2015 December 2014 November 2014 October 2014 September 2014 August 2014 July 2014 June 2014 May 2014 April 2014 March 2014 February 2014 January 2014 December 2013 November 2013 October 2013 September 2013 August 2013 July 2013 June 2013 May 2013 April 2013 March 2013 February 2013 January 2013 December 2012 November 2012 October 2012 September 2012 August 2012 July 2012 June 2012 May 2012 April 2012 March 2012 February 2012 January 2012
Follow Us!
TAKE THE
Religious Wisdom Quiz
Who saw a vision of a ladder reaching heaven?
Select your answer to see how you score.
Joseph Isaac Adam Jacob
Related posts from Agora
Simple Witchery: To Keep Silent
Simple Witchery: Leaning On The Four Pillars
Pergamum Unfurled: Magic with the Greek Gods (Book...
Pergamum Unfurled: Cunning Words (Review)
TRENDING AT PATHEOS Pagan
I was recently chatting with someone on Instagram. She asked me what...
While there are many people who share their results, the end of...
On July 23, I saw Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey which is Homer’s...
As I write this two big events have just finished up. One...
Restoring the Watershed of Divine Love
Perhaps cooperation is not something we manufacture through legislation, ideology, or moral...
Many UUs don’t pray because of bad experiences in a previous religion,...
view all Pagan blogs
Ad-Free & Subscriber Log-In Subscription Support
- About Us
- 2026 Calendar
- Videos
- Podcasts
- Library of World Religions
- Faith In Media Tracker
- Advertise With Us
- Write for Us
- Privacy Policy
- Terms of Service
- Do Not Sell My Data
- Contact Us
- Radiant Digital
- Manage Newsletter Subscriptions
- Unsubscribe From Notifications
- Sitemap
Copyright 2008-2026, Patheos. All rights reserved.
Subscription Support Ad-Free & Subscriber Log-In











